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Old 08-02-2013, 08:06 AM   #341
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the Mazda 3 is everything my focus wasn't

I just gave up on my shuddering, shaking indecisive dual clutch transmission on my 2012 focus. The ford memo is garbage wherein they say all these symptoms are normal. Ask any VW GTI owner, same type transmission, no such problems.

The mazda 3 skyactive engine and tranny are great, nice smooth shifts and down shifts, same great mileage-38, solid firm sporty suspension, solid feel to entire car.

you can read hundreds of consumer reviews on the mazda 3 and I only saw one complaint about engine and/or transmission.

whereas, sadly, you can read hundreds of focus transmission complaints here and also at edmunds.com and also at lemon law blog. not to mention focus owners are vocing their complaints

http://www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress/fo...ssion-problem/

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0f7ced/

plus goto any car web site like cars.com, choose a 2012-2013 focus then click into customer reviews

try any dealer website, customer reviews.

I respect and admire the ford customer reps here at at the ford focus facebook page, they are sincerely trying to help.

but in my opinion, this is a recall waiting to happen that sometimes even requires tearing apart the transmission.

try the mazda 3, you'll never regret it.

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Old 08-02-2013, 12:48 PM   #342
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Haha, now you're just copy pasting this all over where you see "trasmission."


Have you seen a dealer about the issues? Did they attempt to remedy or did they dismiss you? Plenty of people are enjoying their cars just fine. I'm sorry you're experiencing troubles with your new purchase, but boasting about a mazda 3 is just silly.

That was the most uncomfortable ride enterprise gave me, I ended up just taking a hyundai accent without audio connectivity because it drove better.

Yes. I understand how ridiculous that sounds.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:38 PM   #343
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Haha, now you're just copy pasting this all over where you see "trasmission."


Have you seen a dealer about the issues? Did they attempt to remedy or did they dismiss you? Plenty of people are enjoying their cars just fine. I'm sorry you're experiencing troubles with your new purchase, but boasting about a mazda 3 is just silly.

That was the most uncomfortable ride enterprise gave me, I ended up just taking a hyundai accent without audio connectivity because it drove better.

Yes. I understand how ridiculous that sounds.
Hi Big, yes been to dealer several times, had a 25 year old svc rep who knew very little about dual clutch transmission show me a 4 page memo that all is ok. If you have ever driven the VW GTI, which I owned, you KNOW this is not right. Also if you haven't read up on mazda sky active engines and transmission, well worth a read. Their engineers deliberately turned down dual clutch and cvt technology and made their own. out for two years with hundreds of happy consumers posting reviews. 38 mpg verified by consumers, only 5hp less than the focus.

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Old 08-05-2013, 07:04 AM   #344
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Haha, now you're just copy pasting this all over where you see "trasmission."


Have you seen a dealer about the issues? Did they attempt to remedy or did they dismiss you? Plenty of people are enjoying their cars just fine. I'm sorry you're experiencing troubles with your new purchase, but boasting about a mazda 3 is just silly.

That was the most uncomfortable ride enterprise gave me, I ended up just taking a hyundai accent without audio connectivity because it drove better.

Yes. I understand how ridiculous that sounds.
Big thanks for your update on your post #73 where you said: Had my 15k maintenance yesterday, again.. complained about the low speed / gear chatter and the ford rep just lost it and signed me up to have an engine / transmission pull apart, new clutch pack assembly, new engine and trans seals, the works.

He said I was not the only one to complain, and he's tired of giving people the run around. He said almost 9-10 focus trade-in's get this treatment only because they KNOW the probability of something failing is too high.

Im glad to see even they're getting tired of this nonsense.


Try different dealerships, guys... I was just lucky to find someone who is getting fed up.

Your post makes my point 100 times over, thank you for sharing.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:09 AM   #345
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I don't think they "tear the engine / transmission apart" (your rep is over embellishing I think). They just install a new/improved clutch pack. That's what was done for me last fall (and many others). It fixed my grinding issue which has not retuned since.

As I've said many times before here: Ford is giving dealers the green light to make these changes under warranty - DON'T take BS from dealers who refuse to do it for what ever inexplicable reason.

ALSO - Voice the opinion wherever/whenever possible that transmission warranty on these vehicles needs to be extended without charge to make things right between ford and 2012+ Focus owners.

And by the way: without the transmission grinding issue my Focus TI IS a great car!!
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:13 AM   #346
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They just install a new/improved clutch pack.
New maybe. I don't think anyone has been able to confirm the "improved" part - at least not that I have seen.
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I don't think they "tear the engine / transmission apart" (your rep is over embellishing I think). They just install a new/improved clutch pack. That's what was done for me last fall (and many others). It fixed my grinding issue which has not retuned since.

As I've said many times before here: Ford is giving dealers the green light to make these changes under warranty - DON'T take BS from dealers who refuse to do it for what ever inexplicable reason.

ALSO - Voice the opinion wherever/whenever possible that transmission warranty on these vehicles needs to be extended without charge to make things right between ford and 2012+ Focus owners.

And by the way: without the transmission grinding issue my Focus TI IS a great car!!
I wish that were true but by browsing the hundreds and hundreds of posts at this forum on various threads, you can find more than a few people where the dealer

1. pulled the transmission OUT of the car
2. replaced seals, rails, clutches, and/or throwout bearings.


As you read the many variations of problems documented here at this website, the recurring theme for opening up the transmission apepars to be oil contamination from a seal leak.

I believe that there is a TSB which specifically addresses oil leaking from the bell housing.

To start verifying what I have said, just do a forum search for the word transmission.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:26 AM   #348
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I wish that were true but by browsing the hundreds and hundreds of posts at this forum on various threads, you can find more than a few people where the dealer

1. pulled the transmission OUT of the car
2. replaced seals, rails, clutches, and/or throwout bearings.


As you read the many variations of problems documented here at this website, the recurring theme for opening up the transmission apepars to be oil contamination from a seal leak.

I believe that there is a TSB which specifically addresses oil leaking from the bell housing.

To start verifying what I have said, just do a forum search for the word transmission.
I'm not saying mine will stay resolved but it has been up to now (I had it done in November with about 16k km. I'm now at 24k with no issues.

The fact that clutch assembly replacements are not holding up is even more reason to be vocal about getting Ford to respond to these issues at least with a free extended transmission warranty, and for Ford dealers to stop telling customers the lame story that there is no issue.

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New maybe. I don't think anyone has been able to confirm the "improved" part - at least not that I have seen.
I can confirm that it's improved in my case. I've put more miles on my car since the repair was done with no grinding than I had on it up to the repair with grinding.
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I can confirm that it's improved in my case. I've put more miles on my car since the repair was done with no grinding than I had on it up to the repair with grinding.
Sorry - not saying your experience wasn't improved, I meant that there has been no evidence (that I have seen) to suggest that Ford made any sort of engineering or manufacturing changes to clutch packs since they were first introduced.
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Sorry - not saying your experience wasn't improved, I meant that there has been no evidence (that I have seen) to suggest that Ford made any sort of engineering or manufacturing changes to clutch packs since they were first introduced.
Maybe not - in which case I guess it's just a matter of time before mine falls apart again.
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