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Old 06-27-2014, 09:53 AM   #1
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3K DCT Replacement Update

The DCT on my 2012 Focus was replaced with the D series clutch pack about 3 thousand miles ago and I am happy to report that after a little green clutch break in, the transmission has exceeded my expectations in a very good way.
To say that I couldn't be happier is not an over statement. The DCT now performs flawlessly and I can now appreciate the benefits that were attributed to this transmission originally.
I now prefer it to any standard auto I have driven. Just thought I'd pass my experience along since there is so much negative stuff out there about this tranny. I don't know what Ford did with the D series update; whether it's different clutch face material; software calibration; design or construction modifications or a combination of all of the above. But if the DCT continues to perform as it does now, I would say that Ford can cross the DCT problem off of their to do list.


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Old 06-27-2014, 09:58 AM   #2
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Let us know in 20k miles since 3k isn't really alot of miles and some members haven't been so lucky. I really hope it goes well and good luck.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:12 AM   #3
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its too bad its not a recall. Not all of us have problems bad enough to be able to even get the new clutch pack. My car is plenty drivable, but it definately shudders in hot weather and has an oil leak, but the dealer won't do anything about it because its "within tolerance."
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:19 AM   #4
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I've had no issues with my DCT in 32K miles but am aware of the potential. When I bought the car I paid extra for the extended warranty and here's hoping that if the DCT fails it does so within the warranty period. OTH, if it fails outside the warranty I've pretty much figured on a $2K charge to fix it.

The upside to not having to work on it soon is that has given Ford time to improve the hardware so that when/if I do have to replace it the replacement parts will work. So, we appear to be at rev D so lets see how that does in 10K, 20K, 40K, 100K miles.

It is pretty well established that the better design would have used wet clutches but Gertag/Ford went with dry for the better fuel economy. I have to wonder, however, if they couldn't have come up with a wet/dry clutch that sprayed oil on the clutches during gear changes but shut the pump off during cruise.


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its too bad its not a recall. Not all of us have problems bad enough to be able to even get the new clutch pack. My car is plenty drivable, but it definately shudders in hot weather and has an oil leak, but the dealer won't do anything about it because its "within tolerance."
My understanding is that if there is an oil leak, the replacement of (at least) the seals is *not* optional.
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I've had no issues with my DCT in 32K miles but am aware of the potential. When I bought the car I paid extra for the extended warranty and here's hoping that if the DCT fails it does so within the warranty period. OTH, if it fails outside the warranty I've pretty much figured on a $2K charge to fix it.

The upside to not having to work on it soon is that has given Ford time to improve the hardware so that when/if I do have to replace it the replacement parts will work. So, we appear to be at rev D so lets see how that does in 10K, 20K, 40K, 100K miles.
DCT failure?

Do you know of any major issue with the DCT other than leaking seals (which may contaminate the clutch assembly)?



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It is pretty well established that the better design would have used wet clutches but Gertag/Ford went with dry for the better fuel economy. I have to wonder, however, if they couldn't have come up with a wet/dry clutch that sprayed oil on the clutches during gear changes but shut the pump off during cruise.
One design isn't clearly better than the other. There are tradeoffs.

Why would a DCT clutch need to be cooled off (by spraying oil onto it) during a gear change whereas a clutch in a manual transmission would not?
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Old 06-27-2014, 02:17 PM   #7
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Im at almost 1 year and just over 30,000 kms on REV D , im having some random odd stutters once agine. some days better some days worst some not at all.
started when i moved and i no longer back into my spot at home. im at 72,000km total.
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Yeah, my car is running just fine. No DCT problems (even after the update I received a few months ago). But, for others who have DCT issues, there SHOULD be a recall on it. Surprised Ford haven't done anything yet...
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My understanding is that if there is an oil leak, the replacement of (at least) the seals is *not* optional.
the oil that leaks out is very minimal, not enough to ever drip on the ground. just enough to contaminate the clutches. This is almost impossible to prove. When they do a test drive and there's no codes, no shudder above 250rpm as per the guidelines, it doesn't matter what I say. It won't get fixed. If there's oil leaking out of the transmission casing on the the ground, i'm sure they'd fix it, but if it was leaking that badly, i'd probably have >250rpm shudder to get it fixed anyway. Ford has figured out how to dismiss as many customers as possible to save their bottom line.
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The DCT on my 2012 Focus was replaced with the D series clutch pack about 3 thousand miles ago and I am happy to report that after a little green clutch break in, the transmission has exceeded my expectations in a very good way.
To say that I couldn't be happier is not an over statement. The DCT now performs flawlessly and I can now appreciate the benefits that were attributed to this transmission originally.
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Well i'm glad to hear this! i hope it continues to perform well. I'm at almost 5,000 miles on my DCT now and it's still operating perfect. These really are great transmissions when they are working right.
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