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Old 01-06-2012, 12:18 PM   #31
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^^ Thats what I was afraid of. ^^ You will need to spin some to get up hills covered in snow.
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Traction Control and ESP and other features are part and parcel of the ABS unit,
The only way to switch it off is through the display menus.
It would be Downright Dangerous and Irresponsible to purposely fiddle with the ABS sensors in any way. Taking out the Fuse would probably make the car unusable.
I've switched off the TC and it comes back by itself once the Ignition is cycled.
Does the "S" model not have a menu display ?
S Model does have a menu display, but it is ultra-simplistic -- and the S model has no steering wheel controls, so carrying out the keystrokes indicated in the owner's manual is impossible.

Further, Customer Svce Rep Natasha confirms that TCS is not switchable (off) in the S model, and agreed that the owner's manual is rather unclear in this regard.

Your comment about fiddling with the ABS sensor wiring: it is downright dangerous to NOT have cancellable TCS. Many have found, on this car, and on the original 2011 Fiesta, that they are effectively stranded in an intersection, on glare ice, in circumstances where a vehicle is bearing down on them. They get zero response from the engine under these extreme circumstances. It's called "being a sitting duck". No one wants to disable ABS -- but in my opinion, it is warranted under these extreme conditions. As I posted, the suggestion is to momentarily switch off the systems -- and then once mobile, again, immediately reactivate the systems (which takes about 20 seconds of re-boot time).

I should also mention that at no time did I suggest removal of the fuse. The only semi-safe way to do this, is to equip the car with a dashboard mounted switch -- better yet, with a next-start reset relay arrangement -- but obviously to immediately, then, switch the systems back on.

The fact that you have to cycle thru a bunch of menu steps to access the "TCS off" function -- on the SE, SEL, and Titanium, is also an inane design idea! The car needs a dashboard switch, as this function is a main driving control!
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Old 01-07-2012, 04:13 AM   #33
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I guess what we need now is how to wire a switch in the S model (and the other models). What wire to splice a switch into, etc.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:28 PM   #34
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I will revisit a 2013 model year thread and put down that a traction/stability control defeat needs to be included!
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:18 PM   #35
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Yea.
My dads LHS and moms vue have buttons.
RX8 has a button if you press it it turns off TCS and if you hold it it also turns of stability management.

A hard button for TCS/Trac is a big selling point n a car for me, since i live in buffalo NY.
But at least i can trun it off in the focus.
I'm in Buffalo too...this is my first FWD vehicle and I actually like the TCS...
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:24 PM   #36
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I will revisit a 2013 model year thread and put down that a traction/stability control defeat needs to be included!
Exactly! And we need to modify the 2012 model.
I looked in the manual to locate the fuse for the traction control only to find that there is not one dedicated for it. Location for the ABS feed is F 19 under the hood. I pulled the 5 amp fuse and started the car. The traction light was on along with the ABS and brake light. Which is what I had expected. I don't know which wire I would need to cut for the installation of my own on- off switch. But in a pinch if I was stuck on a hill or ice. I could pull the fuse and reinstall it to get the ABS back.
I thought I could make a set of wires that plug into the fuse location, with an inline fuse holder. Then install the switch inside the car. That way I don't have to cut into any wires, which would make it easier to revert back to stock.
I have not tried to drive the car with this fuse pulled yet.
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Traction control is important!!
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Traction control is important!!
Yes it is, but I also need the option to turn it off.
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Yes it is, but I also need the option to turn it off.
Those situations are pretty rare, but a switch on the dash would definitely be welcome.

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Those situations are pretty rare, but a switch on the dash would definitely be welcome.

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They might be rare, but if I am a sitting duck, they are dangerous.
And I have found myself on plenty of ice and deep snow.
Except not this year, yet...
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Many have found, on this car, and on the original 2011 Fiesta, that they are effectively stranded in an intersection, on glare ice, in circumstances where a vehicle is bearing down on them. They get zero response from the engine under these extreme circumstances. It's called "being a sitting duck". No one wants to disable ABS -- but in my opinion, it is warranted under these extreme conditions. As I posted, the suggestion is to momentarily switch off the systems -- and then once mobile, again, immediately reactivate the systems (which takes about 20 seconds of re-boot time).

I should also mention that at no time did I suggest removal of the fuse. The only semi-safe way to do this, is to equip the car with a dashboard mounted switch -- better yet, with a next-start reset relay arrangement -- but obviously to immediately, then, switch the systems back on.

The car needs a dashboard switch, as this function is a main driving control!
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