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Old 12-26-2011, 07:11 AM   #21
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If there is a "Trac on" light but no "Trac off" light may be telling. It seems strange that they would provide no way of turning Trac off even in the S model. My wife's old Buick Rendezvous had a button on the dash to turn off trac. I think I remember using it once or twice. I'm picking up an S model next weekend and never considered this. I don't think it will be much of a problem for me. Still, it seem like an oversight on Ford's part. I'm guessing that the "Trac off" feature is wired for the "info center" type dash screen and rewiring it for a button on an entry level car was not a priority.

I may be wrong. Someone may find out how it turns off.
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Are we sure the S model has traction control?
Isn't traction control mandatory on all new vehicles?

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Old 12-26-2011, 09:31 AM   #23
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If it was, there would be no way for anyone to turn it off.
No I don't think it is mandatory.
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:35 AM   #24
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I may be wrong. Someone may find out how it turns off.
I will be looking into cutting the wire and installing my own switch. Easier than trying to navigate the message center while driving.
Might as well be texting.
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Traction control, stability control, and anti-lock brakes are mandatory on all new passenger vehicles starting with the 2012 model year.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:12 AM   #26
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Seriously? Owners manual makes it sound like they all have that. Kooky...

So are you positive it has traction control? Haven't seen a car yet that has TCS installed with no ability to disable it...
When the first two PCM / BCM versions of the 2011 Ford Fiesta came out, it had TCS that could not be switched off. It had (and has) all manner of Ford Fiesta enthusiasts up-in-arms.

Version 3 of the 2011 Fiesta PCM / BCM -- and the 2012 Ford Fiesta can, thru the driver interface menu, allow a person to shut of the TCS (though it is a tedious series of steps).

You can bet that for for the 2012 S model Focus - it has TCS.

Additionally, the Ford cust. svce rep - Natasha -- confirmed to me that TCS was not switchable-off on the S model. The owners' manual is unclear.

If you rig an interupt switch to any one of the ABS wheel sensors, you simultaneously switch off TCS, ESC, and ABS. There is no way, short of getting-in to the PCM / BCM programming, to turn off just TCS or TCS + ESC, but preserve ABS.

The on/off switch on the dash, though it'd cut out all three systems, does have utility. You use it only to get going in glare-ice situation, in an emergency, when another vehicle or cross traffic is bearing down on you, and then, when out of danger, you soon-after re-enable it. It'd take about 20 seconds to re-boot / re-enable all three systems.
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BTW, even with an SE, SEL, or Titanium Focus (with switchable-off TCS) I'd still rig the emergency-TCS-off button... 'cause fiddle-farting with the message centre dialogue boxes, etc, is BS when you need quick on/off action.

Oh, and as regards having these system manditory for model year 2012 -- yes you're right -- but defeatable ESC and TSC is allowed, provided that a dashboard light or lights are provided, and provided that on the next start-up, it automatically re-engages all systems (which the Focus does).

No one has figured out how to tone-down or turn off the ESC system, BTW.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:28 AM   #28
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Traction Control and ESP and other features are part and parcel of the ABS unit,
The only way to switch it off is through the display menus.
It would be Downright Dangerous and Irresponsible to purposely fiddle with the ABS sensors in any way. Taking out the Fuse would probably make the car unusable.
I've switched off the TC and it comes back by itself once the Ignition is cycled.
Does the "S" model not have a menu display ?
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The S model does not have a menu of any sort except for the radio. So far, not being able to switch off the Trak has not been an issue but I haven't had the car in any bad snow conditions yet.
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Beware when you do, I found out the hard way that the speed you'll be going when TCS detects no traction at either front wheel is idle speed. Pretty sad to see going up a hill.
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