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Old 12-24-2013, 11:03 AM   #511
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I buy my oil at Wally World. Most of the oil companies are reluctant to disclose their formulation and base stock but of the oils you mentioned, Pennzoil Ultra stands out. When it was first introduced, it had specs very similar to Valvoline Synpower and Platinum. In November of 2011, it was reformulated and the NOACK volatility number dropped from 12.6 to 5 (for 5W-20 oil) This low of a NOACK score could only be achieved using premium Group IV or Group V base stock.

http://www.pennzoil.ca/the-newly-ref...an-up-engines/

Since a 5 gallon jug of Pennzoil Ultra sells for only $2 more than Pennzoil Platinum at Walmart (about $28), it is the best bargain available in a true synthetic.

These figures don't lie:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...DFeB5NpZwxCVjA

Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 (reformulated) has a NOACK of 5
load carrying capacity/film strength = 86,034 psi @ 230* F
zinc = 806 ppm
phos = 812 ppm
moly = 66 ppm
*Note: Ultra was reformulated Nov 2011 to SN
Old Ultra SM had a NOACK of 12.6- Make sure you check the date code on the jug. Don't buy old stock!

Low NOACK is important in the direct injected MK3 engine. Walmart also carries the genuine Motorcraft FL-910S oil filter for the MK3 Focus for $3.97.
If they sold 0W-20 in Ultra. I'd buy it. But unfortunately they don't. So I'm sitting with 0W-20 Pennzoil Platinum. Just as good.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:38 PM   #512
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I buy my oil at Wally World. Most of the oil companies are reluctant to disclose their formulation and base stock but of the oils you mentioned, Pennzoil Ultra stands out. When it was first introduced, it was formulated with Group III base stock and had specs very similar to Valvoline Synpower and Platinum. In November of 2011, it was reformulated and the NOACK volatility number dropped from 12.6 to 5 (for 5W-20 oil) This excellent NOACK score could only be achieved using premium Group IV or Group V base stock.

http://www.pennzoil.ca/the-newly-ref...an-up-engines/

Since a 5 gallon jug of Pennzoil Ultra sells for only $2 more than Pennzoil Platinum at Walmart (about $28), it is the best bargain available in a true synthetic.

These figures don't lie:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...DFeB5NpZwxCVjA

Pennzoil Ultra 5W-20 (reformulated) has a NOACK of 5
load carrying capacity/film strength = 86,034 psi @ 230* F
zinc = 806 ppm
phos = 812 ppm
moly = 66 ppm
*Note: Ultra was reformulated Nov 2011 to SN
Old Ultra SM had a NOACK of 12.6- Make sure you check the date code on the jug. Don't buy old stock!

Low NOACK (oil volatility) is important in the direct injected MK3 engine. Synthetic oil with a low NOACK number will deter the formation of carbon on intake valves.

Walmart also carries the genuine Motorcraft FL-910S oil filter for the MK3 Focus for $3.97.
Ultra seems like a great, albeit underappreciated, oil. For those who turn up their noses at Group III synthetics made from crude oil, be aware Ultra's base stock is made from natural gas, which allows the exceptionally low Noack values.

In the petroleum world, even natural gas-derived base stocks are condsidering "Group III" products, but Ultra sure looks equal to just about any oil on the market. And at $28/5 quarts it's a absolute steal.

On the other hand, for many of us maybe it's all pointless: the DCT will probably expire long before intake valve deposits are an issue.
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Old 12-25-2013, 06:20 AM   #513
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When we purchase foreign products from Royal Dutch Shell, products like Pennzoil, the below video's show what our hard earned money is supporting. Are you really comfortable supporting this?

Shell Oil - The Awful Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejym4mKelhM

Royal Dutch Shell GUILTY of Mass Murder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXVmHNEqv8
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I heard Royal Purple is made in the USA question is is the base oil our own too? What about Amsoil oil?
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When we purchase foreign products from Royal Dutch Shell, products like Pennzoil, the below video's show what our hard earned money is supporting. Are you really comfortable supporting this?

Shell Oil - The Awful Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejym4mKelhM

Royal Dutch Shell GUILTY of Mass Murder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXVmHNEqv8
Cool story bro.
All you showed me was super grainy videos.
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Watch any of the video's on YouTube regarding this well documented case you wish. It's all there. Do you really support this crap by purchasing Royal Dutch Shell products such as Pennzoil?
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Watch any of the video's on YouTube regarding this well documented case you wish. It's all there. Do you really support this crap by purchasing Royal Dutch Shell products such as Pennzoil?
Yes I support a really good oil. Not to mention, I also get their V-Power 93 at my local Shell. Do I also really fill up at BP because AMEX is giving me a $5 credit for every $25 I spend? Yes.
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So a company that has brutalized people and more, (as the video's document), means nothing to you. Merry Christmas.
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So a company that has brutalized people and more, (as the video's document), means nothing to you. Merry Christmas.
Actually, it does bother me. If you will show me another 5W-20 synthetic oil with a NOACK score of 5 for less than $30, I will buy it instead. (There aren't any)

I can't see paying twice as much for Amsoil to get low NOACK synthetic oil.

I also don't like what Go Daddy CEO Bob Parsons did when he slaughtered an elephant but I still have my domains there.

I have learned to leave people to their own devices. They will eventually get what's coming to them.

Look at O.J. Simpson. Many think he got away with murder yet his own arrogance did him in years later. Like Icarus, these guys will eventually fly too close to the sun and get burned.

The truth is that many American companies engage in atrocious behavior. Do you own an Ipad, Iphone or Ipod? Apple contracts out to Foxconn in China who so abuses their workers that they had to install suicide nets to keep the employees from killing themselves by jumping from the roof of the building.

If you were to stop buying from every company that commits immoral or reprehensible acts in the name of capitalism, you won't be bringing home many technology items.
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So a company that has brutalized people and more, (as the video's document), means nothing to you. Merry Christmas.
How do I know that those videos are legit? How do I know those videos aren't being produced by BP or Sonoco so people like you can avoid their products? Just because you show me some video, doesn't mean I'm going to stop using a really good oil or really cheap gas.
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