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Old 12-05-2011, 03:57 PM   #21
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search for audi A6 now. :)

different strokes for different folks. making a blanket statement like. You did is not very constructive
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:11 AM   #22
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search for audi A6 now. :)

different strokes for different folks. making a blanket statement like. You did is not very constructive
The red Audi I posted is an A6.

I agree that taste is relative, but it makes for far more interesting conversation when people DON'T keep their opinions to themselves.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:43 PM   #23
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The Focus DRL product installation instructions was written for Ford Focus vehicles in Mexico, Canada, Europe and USA. Canada and Europe require daytime running lights and our instructions allows proper function for all markets.


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After giving it some more thought, my guess is that the parking light wire is cut to disengage the OEM parking light, and the signal on the driver's side is used to trigger low/high intensity on the new LED drl lights. If this step is skipped, I believe the DRLs will remain in either the low/high intensity(if the no signal case is high intensity, they may now not be "street legal", and if the no signal case is low intensity, they will not be as bright when the headlights are not on), but you would gain the ability to reverse the install if needed.

I don't believe it actually draws any power from this wire on the driver's side, but it is rather used as a sensor of what the OEM setting is. I wonder if it is possible to tap into that signal without actually cutting the wire.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:55 PM   #24
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The Focus DRL product installation instructions was written for Ford Focus vehicles in Mexico, Canada, Europe and USA. Canada and Europe require daytime running lights and our instructions allows proper function for all markets.
Understood. Can you describe what the functionality of the DRL lights will be if the parking light wire is NOT cut and connected to the DRL ecu module?

Thanks.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:34 AM   #25
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Understood. Can you describe what the functionality of the DRL lights will be if the parking light wire is NOT cut and connected to the DRL ecu module?

Thanks.
The Blue wire from the ECU is to "sense" when the park lights / headlights are on so the DRL's dim 50%. So if you do not connect it, the DRL's stay at full power.

I have spoken to our engineer in Europe and he is looking into the possibility of just "tapping" (no cutting) one wire on one side for the dimming on US vehicles. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:52 PM   #26
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Great. Thank you for following up on this. I have an order in (which should be shipping shortly), it would be great to know this information.





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The Blue wire from the ECU is to "sense" when the park lights / headlights are on so the DRL's dim 50%. So if you do not connect it, the DRL's stay at full power.

I have spoken to our engineer in Europe and he is looking into the possibility of just "tapping" (no cutting) one wire on one side for the dimming on US vehicles. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:09 PM   #27
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Did anyone actually get these yet? I had emailed echo master to see how close the glossy finish is to the oem ones and didn't hear back from them.
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:49 PM   #28
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Received last week. Installed today. Piano finish is really close to stock, cannot tell unless you look really close, side by side.

Some install tips in the order I ran into them:

The stock trim pieces are not easy to remove. I went with the front approach(rather than taking the under side of the car apart). What worked for me is to locate the clip locations(using the aftermarket piece as a guide) and insert a credit car between the bumper and the trim piece. Then push a flathead screw driver between the credit card and the trim piece, and push the crew driver head towards the trim piece. This approach protects the bumper from getting scratched by the screw driver, as the credit card acts as a barrier. Repeat this for all the clips around the trim piece, and it will finally come out.

The plastic cover at the front of the car that is supposed to cover the cabling, does not come out with 4 screws as described in the directions. Instead there are 4 clips, and even when the clips are removed, I could not lift this plastic. I ended up straightening out a shirt hanger, and running the hanger under the plastic piece the width of the front of the car, and then pulling the DRL cable through to the other side this way.

I did not connect the sensor wire to the parking light. The directions suggest cutting these wires, which would make the install non-reversible. I bought a quick splice adapter, and will go back and quick splice it to the driver's side parking light wire in the near future.

This was my first time doing any type of car lighting install (other than recently changing headlight bulbs to ORAM Night Breaker Plus), and it took me ~2 hours. Since this was my first time, I did a lot of testing. First making sure everything worked outside the car. Then making sure everything worked without tightening any screws. Finally making sure all cabling was nice and tight, and finally closing her up.

Other than the slight disappointment with the install directions (BTW: the directions that come with the kit(Ikea like drawings) are worse than the color install directions pulled from a site that carriers these DRLs online), I am 100% satisfied with the fit, finish and performance of these lights.

As mentioned, I also switched to OSRAM Night Breaker Plus(H11), because I liked their white color without any hint of blue and they were also much brighter than the stock bulb. I may be looking for more "white" bulbs now. The LEDs make them looks more yellow. Any suggestions?


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Thanks so much for sharing your information, pictures and tips. Really appreciate it. I think I will order mine from what I saw of yours. I am surprised that Ford didn't do any type of special lighting as they are with their light bars on the edge/taurus etc. or LED's or Xenons. This is just the right touch to help it stand apart from the soon to be large number of these cars on the road.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:49 AM   #30
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Received last week. Installed today. Piano finish is really close to stock, cannot tell unless you look really close, side by side.

Some install tips in the order I ran into them:

The stock trim pieces are not easy to remove. I went with the front approach(rather than taking the under side of the car apart). What worked for me is to locate the clip locations(using the aftermarket piece as a guide) and insert a credit car between the bumper and the trim piece. Then push a flathead screw driver between the credit card and the trim piece, and push the crew driver head towards the trim piece. This approach protects the bumper from getting scratched by the screw driver, as the credit card acts as a barrier. Repeat this for all the clips around the trim piece, and it will finally come out.

The plastic cover at the front of the car that is supposed to cover the cabling, does not come out with 4 screws as described in the directions. Instead there are 4 clips, and even when the clips are removed, I could not lift this plastic. I ended up straightening out a shirt hanger, and running the hanger under the plastic piece the width of the front of the car, and then pulling the DRL cable through to the other side this way.

I did not connect the sensor wire to the parking light. The directions suggest cutting these wires, which would make the install non-reversible. I bought a quick splice adapter, and will go back and quick splice it to the driver's side parking light wire in the near future.

This was my first time doing any type of car lighting install (other than recently changing headlight bulbs to ORAM Night Breaker Plus), and it took me ~2 hours. Since this was my first time, I did a lot of testing. First making sure everything worked outside the car. Then making sure everything worked without tightening any screws. Finally making sure all cabling was nice and tight, and finally closing her up.

Other than the slight disappointment with the install directions (BTW: the directions that come with the kit(Ikea like drawings) are worse than the color install directions pulled from a site that carriers these DRLs online), I am 100% satisfied with the fit, finish and performance of these lights.

As mentioned, I also switched to OSRAM Night Breaker Plus(H11), because I liked their white color without any hint of blue and they were also much brighter than the stock bulb. I may be looking for more "white" bulbs now. The LEDs make them looks more yellow. Any suggestions?


Thanks for the install tips! They look great! Can you upload some night pics please :)

Edit: Is the LED only located on that part of the trim? Can we get them at the bottom of the trim?
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