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Old 11-09-2011, 06:09 PM   #1
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Difference between nav via SYNC and the "Navigation" package?

I was under the impression that the car I bought (currently on its way from another dealer) had the navigation option installed. It doesn't. When I asked the salesman about it he said that all cars with SYNC have turn-by-turn navigation, searchable destinations and businesses, route planning and traffic monitoring, etc. The only thing you get for the $795 Navigation Package is the birds-eye aerial map.

$800 seems like a lot for just a map. I'm skeptical. It seems logical that either the SYNC navigation isn't as loaded as he's making it out to be, or the Navigation Package comes with more than just a pretty flying map. The Ford website says it comes with Sirius TravelLink (whatever that is), gas station pricing, weather forecasts, sports scores, movie listings and more. Are those all exclusive to the Voice Activated Navigation package, or are they part of SYNC?

Anyone have experience with the two side-by-side? What do they have in common? What's different? Is it worth $800 when I've got Google Maps and a 4G smartphone?

Finally, is it something that can be easily installed at the dealer before delivery, such as adding an SD card and unlocking the features?




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Old 11-09-2011, 06:33 PM   #2
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You can learn more about the SYNC navigation features at http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/...?vehicle=focus. I think the nav option lets you choose specific via points or routing options and will automatically recalculate if you go off a planned route, as well as the additional information points that you mention. The SYNC turn-by-turn directions seem to be less flexible (no automatic recalculation and no manual routing choices unless you use Send to SYNC) and don't offer all of that extra info.

It's not clear to me if the basic SYNC supports Send to SYNC. At the link I provided above it indicates it does, but I thought I remembered seeing another place that it didn't. Perhaps somebody who has received their car already can tell us how it really works. I've only been reading in anticipation of my car somebody being delivered.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:58 PM   #3
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For me, the biggest difference (other than the map) would be the immediate recalculating. I want to know right away if I took a wrong turn and what to do about it. I don't believe the SYNC Nav has this feature.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:59 PM   #4
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You can learn more about the SYNC navigation features at http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/...?vehicle=focus. I think the nav option lets you choose specific via points or routing options and will automatically recalculate if you go off a planned route, as well as the additional information points that you mention. The SYNC turn-by-turn directions seem to be less flexible (no automatic recalculation and no manual routing choices unless you use Send to SYNC) and don't offer all of that extra info.

It's not clear to me if the basic SYNC supports Send to SYNC. At the link I provided above it indicates it does, but I thought I remembered seeing another place that it didn't. Perhaps somebody who has received their car already can tell us how it really works. I've only been reading in anticipation of my car somebody being delivered.
Oddly enough the link provided indicates that SYNC with Voice Activated Navigation isn't available on the Focus even though it is.

I clicked back a page to the 'Packages' tab and found this:
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/configurations/

There I can compare the systems side-by-side. From what I see, the Voice Activated Navigation (Lets just call it VAN) comes with significantly fewer features than the MFT. An "Integrated Navigation System" is listed as optional for MFT, maybe that's what's listed as the $795 VAN under the Focus build tool?

this is confusing....
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:34 PM   #5
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i just took delivery of sel with nav. its awsome sometimes but lacks certain features but if you drive alot and want nav help definately get the nav. zoom in zoom out etc all with voice commands. rerouting is awsome,poi's are nice when hungry or need gas.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:35 PM   #6
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Oddly enough the link provided indicates that SYNC with Voice Activated Navigation isn't available on the Focus even though it is.

I clicked back a page to the 'Packages' tab and found this:
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/configurations/

There I can compare the systems side-by-side. From what I see, the Voice Activated Navigation (Lets just call it VAN) comes with significantly fewer features than the MFT. An "Integrated Navigation System" is listed as optional for MFT, maybe that's what's listed as the $795 VAN under the Focus build tool?

this is confusing....
SYNC with VAN is not available on the Focus. This was a system that was developed before MFT which combined Sync with a screen for the map display.

What is available on the Focus is "Sync with Myford" or Myford touch. Navigation is an option that can be added for $800 to MFT. A free (for three years) feature of either option is "Sync Services". Sync services is able to dowload turn by turn directions to your car using your phone. Sync services does not have a map display.

http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/...sync-services/
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:19 PM   #7
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For me, the biggest difference (other than the map) would be the immediate recalculating. I want to know right away if I took a wrong turn and what to do about it. I don't believe the SYNC Nav has this feature.
This is true.


The actual Navigation package is like having a big (huge) GPS in your car. The Sync Navigation is like having a really smart friend that you can call. If you miss a turn, instead of the GPS just giving you other options, you have to call back your really smart friend to find out what to do next.

Sync Navigation works fine, but it doesn't provide a map of any kind and it's completely inflexible. If you miss a turn or something changes, it'll ask if you want to re-calculate. If you say yes, it has to call back in and download the new directions...which takes anywhere from 15-30 seconds total (from starting the call to hanging up).
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OK, I think this is finally starting to make sense. What my salesman said was right; turn-by-turn nav is part of MFT, but if I want a map I have to spring for the Nav package. I guess it comes with the Sirius TravelLink too (which I'm sure is $200 a year or something ridiculous).

Does anyone know if Nav is something that can be added by the dealer after the car is built? I know it's all SD-card based, so maybe it's a matter of installing the card and activating the feature?
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:24 AM   #9
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Does anyone know if Nav is something that can be added by the dealer after the car is built? I know it's all SD-card based, so maybe it's a matter of installing the card and activating the feature?
This is something that has been discussed/asked in other threads. I know I never saw a definitive answer in any of them (doesn't mean it is not there, I just may have not read it). Anyone know for sure?

I believe the Sirius travel services are 5.99 a month. This is just the travel, no radio.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:38 AM   #10
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The Nav option CAN NOT be dealer installed. It has a completely different wiring harness that includes the GPS antenna. My opinion... the SYNC T-B-T blows. The Nav has some learning curves as well, but the live traffic and re-routing options when there is an accident have saved me hours on my comute multiple times. Well worth the upgrade.
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