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Old 11-12-2011, 03:10 PM   #61
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would this setup work for those of us that have the automatic manual transmission, or would these upgrades only work on "stick" manuals?

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would this setup work for those of us that have the automatic manual transmission, or would these upgrades only work on "stick" manuals?
Should work for everyone.
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would this setup work for those of us that have the automatic manual transmission, or would these upgrades only work on "stick" manuals?
Depends on the torque limitations of the Powershift.

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Good point. They're probably not going to stand up to the same beating the manual tranny would.
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I would never pay that much for a focus. Don't get me wrong, I love my car but I purchased it for the milage. If performance was my goal, 35k would buy a nice Mustang GT. I don't see how a hotter focus makes sense, different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I would never pay that much for a focus. Don't get me wrong, I love my car but I purchased it for the milage. If performance was my goal, 35k would buy a nice Mustang GT. I don't see how a hotter focus makes sense, different strokes for different folks I guess.
x2. before the focus i had an 04 mach 1. my goal this time around isn't speed or performance... at least not with the focus. lol! sure it can be made quick(er), but enough to best a hulking 302 with the same mods?

when i want to go fast (again) i'll get a vehicle made for it. not knocking on the foci, i like it for what *i* got it for.
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x2. before the focus i had an 04 mach 1. my goal this time around isn't speed or performance... at least not with the focus. lol! sure it can be made quick(er), but enough to best a hulking 302 with the same mods?

when i want to go fast (again) i'll get a vehicle made for it. not knocking on the foci, i like it for what *i* got it for.
It comes down to a lot of factors. Sure the Mustang is by and away the better sporty pick. But, can your Mustang carry 5 people and a good amount of baggage at the same time? Not so much. So, no it's not Mustang powerful when you opt for the ST or Roush package... but it's got more practical uses than a 2-door ponycar.
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It comes down to a lot of factors. Sure the Mustang is by and away the better sporty pick. But, can your Mustang carry 5 people and a good amount of baggage at the same time? Not so much. So, no it's not Mustang powerful when you opt for the ST or Roush package... but it's got more practical uses than a 2-door ponycar.
thinkin' if you're getting an st or roush, you're not really thinking daily driver material that you can use to take friends from point a to b... along with their luggage/stuff; even though it can be used as such.

yes the focus is a more practical vehicle by design than the mustang. but once you order an st or roush, performance is the goal... not practicality. and if that's the case, get the ford that's designed for that.

comparing the focus to a mustang is comparing apples to elephants. both have different uses and making one try to do what the other does is impractical for both.

this is just my humble opinion, no one will be right or wrong... my logic tells me to get a focus for practicality, get a pony car for performance. it's true i can get a performance version of the focus, but i don't think i'll be satisfied the way i would if i would've gotten the vehicle made for the job (within my means... sorry no ford gt for me ).
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thinkin' if you're getting an st or roush, you're not really thinking daily driver material that you can use to take friends from point a to b... along with their luggage/stuff; even though it can be used as such.

yes the focus is a more practical vehicle by design than the mustang. but once you order an st or roush, performance is the goal... not practicality. and if that's the case, get the ford that's designed for that.

comparing the focus to a mustang is comparing apples to elephants. both have different uses and making one try to do what the other does is impractical for both.

this is just my humble opinion, no one will be right or wrong... my logic tells me to get a focus for practicality, get a pony car for performance. it's true i can get a performance version of the focus, but i don't think i'll be satisfied the way i would if i would've gotten the vehicle made for the job (within my means... sorry no ford gt for me ).
I see valid points and I see points that I don't agree with there. I understand where you're coming from, but in all reality, the ST is probably going to have pretty decent gas mileage for a turbo-4, and thus...

It's a good trade-off between performance and practicality, much like the Mazdaspeed 3 is. It's still a hatchback, but it's not by any means slow anymore. It's a hot hatch, some upscale amenities, but you can still punch it and move.

It's a car for a weekday dad (or mom) and a weekend warrior (light track use, spirited driving, etc.) without leaving you wanting more if it fits your niche.

It's more practical than buying a Focus and a Mustang separately for the same goals.

So I agree in the sense that the mustang is the clear cut sports car winner and the focus is the clear cut economy car winner, but when you want just that middle of the road, little bit of both, you can opt for the ST or tack on the Roush package. Like I said, it's kind of a niche thing.
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