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Old 11-07-2011, 10:54 AM   #51
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i hope im wrong but i was told the st will cost about $35k
$35k would be sti/evo territory... all of which have awd and 300hp engines.

$35k for a rs500 would be more like it
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A little more power would be nice. I think they made a big mistake supercharging and not throwing turbo on. It's not the mustang and this segment loves turbos. It's even catching on in the pony car segment. The car looks pretty decent but I'm sure it will be way overpriced though. The ST will probably out perform all around and cost less.
Roush has more resources towards supercharging vehicles than turbocharging vehicles. I said it before turbocharging a 2.0L GDI would require some internal engine modifications(Shown with the COBB Focus). Personally I think superchargers are more streetable than turbos. They are usually easier to install, and don't have any obnoxious blowoff noises, turbo chatter, etc. I am looking forward for a quality kit from Roush for the 2012 Focus. I would trust Roush over most companies even though I am not a fan of Jack.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:26 PM   #53
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Roush has more resources towards supercharging vehicles than turbocharging vehicles. I said it before turbocharging a 2.0L GDI would require some internal engine modifications(Shown with the COBB Focus). Personally I think superchargers are more streetable than turbos. They are usually easier to install, and don't have any obnoxious blowoff noises, turbo chatter, etc. I am looking forward for a quality kit from Roush for the 2012 Focus. I would trust Roush over most companies even though I am not a fan of Jack.
True, but I would rather have the expandability of a turbo setup versus the parasitic effects of a blower.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:01 PM   #54
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True, but I would rather have the expandability of a turbo setup versus the parasitic effects of a blower.
Not to mention the Heat a blower makes good night... Anyone here that has a Powerworks and raced we say intake air temps at the motor around 200 degrees compared to a turbo at 5 or 6 degrees over ambient.

Also turbo makes more power Per PSI hands down. The ST will get better gas mileage and in the long run have better power to be added to it.

If you make the pulley smaller that supercharger will overspin at high rpm and make just as much heat as a pullied powerworks.

Turbo with intercooler is far better then any supercharger that does not use a exterior front mounted intercooler.
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I think the versatility of the ROUSH setup is that you can apply it (seemingly) to any Focus model, so effectively you could buy a base Focus S and then get the ROUSH upgrades. Could be a cheaper alternative for some extra power bits than spending the extra cash for an ST up front. Plus if it's a la carte, you can do it as your budget allows rather than having to opt for the ST.

That said, I still prefer the turbo setup to the supercharger.. athough to be honest if I had the cash for an ST, I'd probably put the ROUSH kit on it, I like the front and rear ends much more than the ST especially.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:37 AM   #56
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I think the versatility of the ROUSH setup is that you can apply it (seemingly) to any Focus model, so effectively you could buy a base Focus S and then get the ROUSH upgrades. Could be a cheaper alternative for some extra power bits than spending the extra cash for an ST up front. Plus if it's a la carte, you can do it as your budget allows rather than having to opt for the ST.

That said, I still prefer the turbo setup to the supercharger.. athough to be honest if I had the cash for an ST, I'd probably put the ROUSH kit on it, I like the front and rear ends much more than the ST especially.
heh, heh .. my thoughts too!!
Drop ship the ST at ROUSH. Another ROUSH SVT product, best of both worlds.
Of course that's what I got with my mustang so I'm partial.
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Only reason I wouldn't consider this over the ST is that the ST will have advanced torque vectoring control and will limit torque steer. It also will have stability control... which you can turn off.

Which is a shame, because the more I look at this, the more I wish the ST looked more like this.
You could alway's add a Torsen, thou!
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My guess is wait for the ST for about he same money and a lot more TQ and HP and goodies

Roush bailed on the Focus like most others with the GEN 1 they have a lot of proving to do in the Focus community before I would be interested in anything Roush again

Estimated HP , why do they not know what the power is ? Is that wheel or Flywheel ?
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I think the versatility of the ROUSH setup is that you can apply it (seemingly) to any Focus model, so effectively you could buy a base Focus S and then get the ROUSH upgrades. Could be a cheaper alternative for some extra power bits than spending the extra cash for an ST up front. Plus if it's a la carte, you can do it as your budget allows rather than having to opt for the ST.

That said, I still prefer the turbo setup to the supercharger.. athough to be honest if I had the cash for an ST, I'd probably put the ROUSH kit on it, I like the front and rear ends much more than the ST especially.
I'd love for it to be ala carte. That would make me happy.
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Ok i know all of you guys were wondering abou the price range and this is what i figure it may cost. 7-10k for the whole upgrade now i know that sounds cheap but when i took the survey from roush it asked how much are you willing to pay for specific upgrades when i added it up it ended up with a total of about 10k so depending on what you want is what you get. the roushcharger it asked what are you willing to pay it was something like 4500- 5500 or something like that and same things it for everything else which was what would you pay for the roush upgrade not including the roushcharger about same pricepoint. so if this is true then it is worth paying this ontop of what i paid for my foci which was only 17k btw i have the sedan and i would just take some of the facial aspects and the supercharger also it asked if you preferred to have it installed at a dealership by roush or at a ford dealership i mean ford dealerships mean that well u can go anywhere and get it but yeah we will see what happens hopefully this info is helpfull also ill try to link the survey if you guys havnt done it yet


EDIT; found the link=http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e566dse2gua88g86/start

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