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Old 04-10-2014, 10:30 PM   #1
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2012 Focus tail lights won't turn off

Hey guys
I have an issue with the tail lights in my Focus.
The only time they are off is when the engine is off.
the switch has no control , in any setting ( off, auto , ..etc)
the indicator in the dashboard is always on as well
I took my car last week for an oil change and asked the dealer to look into it.
I picked it a the end of the day and they said they will have to talk to Ford Technical Services.
Today (after 1 week) , the dealer claims that they checked other 2012 Focus and they are all the same : tail light are always on , it doesn't matter day or night and regardless what setting the switch is in.

Can other Focus owners ( 2012) confirm if it is true?

I checked the user manual , and it does say they turn off if the switch is in off postion


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Old 04-10-2014, 10:38 PM   #2
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My 2012 has the tail lights on all the time too (also Canadian equipped car).
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Old 04-12-2014, 10:16 AM   #3
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That is really not the way it is supposed to.
I am quit annoyed by this , especially it is not operating as specified in the user's manual.
Why the hell should the tail lights stay on ( and dashboard indicators) when there is no need for it?
And apparently the 2013 an up do not have this issue.
Another screw up from FORD
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:45 PM   #4
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That is really not the way it is supposed to.
I am quit annoyed by this , especially it is not operating as specified in the user's manual.
Why the hell should the tail lights stay on ( and dashboard indicators) when there is no need for it?
And apparently the 2013 an up do not have this issue.
Another screw up from FORD
The owners manual may printed more for the US system. Our tail lights come on because they are lit up by the DRL system.

Straight from the factory service manual....

Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)

The DRL system consists of:

Low beams (halogen headlamps)
Signature lighting (Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs) integrated in the High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps)
Parking lamps (if equipped with parking lamp Daytime Running Lamps (DRL))
BCM
For halogen headlamps, the DRL system operates the low beam headlamps at a reduced intensity and may illuminate the parking lamps.

How is it a screwup from Ford??? I'm glad the tail lights come on so I'm not one of those idiots driving around in the dark with the tail lights off and DRLs lighting up the headlights only.
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Old 04-12-2014, 06:07 PM   #5
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I think you are mixing up between tail lights "coming on" and "always on".
Now you are making me think that Ford misinterpreted the DRL requirements in the 2012 model which they corrected in 2013+
Driving in a broad day light with tail lights on is never heard of. That's the screw up from FORD
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Oh, yeah I am completely mixed up. You are definitely right. The factory service manual must be wrong. You should push this on all the dealers in your area until you find someone to help you out. Good luck with your future endeavors!
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I think you are mixing up between tail lights "coming on" and "always on".
Now you are making me think that Ford misinterpreted the DRL requirements in the 2012 model which they corrected in 2013+
Driving in a broad day light with tail lights on is never heard of. That's the screw up from FORD
If you are so pissed about the rear lights being part of the DRL set up, are you equally upset with the front DRL set up?

I am trying to understand why the DRL rear lighting in broad day light makes you so upset.

Is it the wasted energy?
Is it that you are worried about rear bulb life?
Or because you have one of the only vehicles in Canada that have rear DRL lights?
Or is it because Ford Canada does not supply a Canadian specific Focus manual?
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:26 AM   #8
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How is it a screwup from Ford??? I'm glad the tail lights come on so I'm not one of those idiots driving around in the dark with the tail lights off and DRLs lighting up the headlights only.
Bravo.
Every time I travel to Canada, this fact always make me wonder why so many cars are driving around in the dark with no rear lights on.

Makes total sense to me to have rear DRL's just to help out those drivers who forget or are not aware they did not turn on there full lighting system.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:06 AM   #9
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If you are so pissed about the rear lights being part of the DRL set up, are you equally upset with the front DRL set up?

I am trying to understand why the DRL rear lighting in broad day light makes you so upset.

Is it the wasted energy?
Is it that you are worried about rear bulb life?
Or because you have one of the only vehicles in Canada that have rear DRL lights?
Or is it because Ford Canada does not supply a Canadian specific Focus manual?
Ask me this question :
Or because the tail lights are always on despite your vehicle being equipped with something called Autolamp control ?
And I will say: YES
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