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Old 01-27-2012, 07:48 AM   #41
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No offense taken. I have 2 reasons for wanting to use the DSM setup. I know that the gear ratios will work with the 8.8 and I know you can make cheap power.

As far as any swap out there, you will have about the same amount of work (in general). You will have to swap or build harnesses, possibly upgrade the fuel, custom exhaust, build motor mounts, figure up axles, etc. With the AWD you have a little more since your dealing with the rear end, but in our case someone has already done the hard work you can just buy the kits. Just need to postion the engine in the right spot and have a driveshaft built.

I would say that anything that will work with the 8.8 gear ratios would be a good option for a swap here in either RWD or AWD.

After the AWD thought, I don't like the idea of using a V6 because of the weight difference. You have to think about how much extra weight you are adding to the front of the car and how that will effect the overall performance. Especially if it is RWD. Another nice thing about being able to make good power on a turbo 4 cylinder is that the weight will be much better balanced in the car. Speaking of weight, the Focus is very close in weight to the DSM so that can give you a really good idea of it potential (provided the body will hold up to an AWD launch).

Another benefit of keeping the 4 cylinder is it will be much easier to be a "sleeper" which is something I want. I would love to have someone in a Mustang or Camaro pull up next to me at a light and think they are all that.

I love talking about this with people. It is something that I'm going to try my hardest to complete as long as life doesn't get in the way. I am always up for discussion on swaps as it is truely something I would like to go into business doing in the long run.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:13 AM   #42
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Im pretty sure you can get the escape in a 2.3 duratec awd. I understand cheap power from the dsm engine, however in my opinion it would be easier to try and use a duratec platform since the upper mounts should be fairly similar.
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Mounting to the Focus looks like it will be fairly easy. I've reviewed a lot of pictures (as I don't have mine yet) and the front "frame" rails are flat. I think a bracket could easily be made to bolt there and depending on the height of the engine bracket you could extend that bracket up to the strut tower. I like the your thinking though.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:02 PM   #44
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well after some major setbacks with the v8 swap (placement, ground clearance, overall weight, bad week.... blown turbo on DD that's getting upgraded), it's on hold for a bit, either to work on again as planned or do something else odd to it..... I have been really wanting an evo lately. I know of a wrecked evo nearby.

HMM shell, sell current drivetrain setup, go buy evo system and be happier. Get good ground clearance, have it installed faster and actually make decent power too. FML
do the evo swap. forget that tired old 350. they make less power than a zetec is capable of with just a turbo.

as far as rwd vs awd. i have both and which is right for you depends on what you want with the car. you cant really compare them.

as far as the v8 adding weight to the front end that just depends on how lazy you are with the swap. i cut the firewall and tunnel out to get the engine back and up high enough. my car sits higher in the front now than it did with the zetec in it with the same suspension set up.

my opinion on the duratec drive train vs the evo is just silly. i have heard plenty about the duratecs awd not being very strong and if your not doing an awd swap to make some serious power your just waisting time IMO
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:37 PM   #45
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I want something that it is possible for me to drive all year. My DSM was about the same weight and even with AWD it was still a little slick if you weren't careful. I'm thinking starting off with a RWD Focus with the same powerplant wouldn't be a good driver in the snow if I needed it (Hopefully I won't). Besides that, I really do want to build a RWD Focus once this one it going. I do autocross from time to time, but my mail goal behind this project is to take a Focus to a place few have ever gone. I like to push the edge of what most people would even think about doing. Been thinking about dropping a R1 motor in a cruiser frame...Giggity.
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I know I've only been looking for a week now, but I figured I could close my eyes and trip over a non running ZX3
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I know I've only been looking for a week now, but I figured I could close my eyes and trip over a non running ZX3
Foci last for ever it seems like. The only ones you usually find with a blown engine are usually Spi (I don't think they ever came in a zx3 but I could easily be wrong) or an Svt which are rare to start with. Just a thought but have you tried any salvage yards? I know my local one has some nice sedan shells; you may luck out and find a hatch shell somewhere.
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I'm gonna go hit them up tomorrow and talk to a guy. Maybe tell them if they get one in that isn't wrecked I'll buy the whole car off them for the right price. That way they can just make a quick buck. I've found a few around here and there, but most are about 5 hours away. I've emailed 3 people but haven't gotten any responces yet.
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how much you willing to to pay for a roller with trans tunnel, 8.8 rear end, and 5 lug conversion
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Not enough to make it worth your while. I've got about $700-$800 right now and I would need some of that to drive down and get it.
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