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Old 09-28-2011, 03:50 PM   #101
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One thing we used to do in my mustang club when i was in one was get a sock with a mic in it. close the trunk lid on it so the sock was hanging outside so it can get the exhaust note :)
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:42 PM   #102
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Just picked up the car this evening. This will be the second thing I do to it after the tint is done on Friday )) Need to find a competent muffler shop. Couple of questions to Sleighman:

1. Did you use stainless piping?
2. Did the shop provide the piping or did you bring it in?
3. Was any pipe bending required?
4. Can you take a photo of the entire exhaust from below front to back and back to front?
5. If I understood correctly, you completely eliminated the center muffler (#1), left the resonator (#2) alone and the borla went in instead of rear (#3).

Thanks! Awesome job!
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:08 PM   #103
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1. Bent tubes. Not stainless. (The shop did not have any stainless so I just went with regular pipe. Its easier to paint the regular stuff.
2. Shop had pipping.
3. Bending only the very short left and right side for pipes that connect the tips. ( For a custom install the bender can work around the pipe to get it perfect)
4. No pictures are needed. Just look under at muffler three. The shop will weld up the exhaust the same way the factory one is.
5 I put the #1 muffler in the pictures listed by naegerter back on. I would just do the rear.
6. Before I went to the shop I roughed up the satin finish on the Borla muffler, de greased it then used Krylon engine block gray primer. Then I painted several coats of Flat Black Krylon engine paint and let dry over night. The pipe connecting the muffler to the tips they painted after the install. After the weld up job and the exhaust is tested for leaks paint the pipes black while they hot. Us a piece of cardboard to protect from over spray.

The shop painted mine for me.

Use google for your area and then go and talk to someone there. Try to talk to the guy that actually welds the stuff up.

To hang 1 muffler, Two pipes, 2 tips and 2 hangers should not cost a lot. Three shops down here all said about an hour labor.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:34 PM   #104
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Great. Thanks for the detailed info. Sounds very straight forward. I will do unpainted ss piping, though and polish the weld discoloration off. There is minimal piping so the difference in price will be small. It may be a bit too shiny, though.
My only hesitation is the universal muffler. I don't expect any hp gain out of this 2.0, but sure do not want to loose any either. The borla is meant to be the only muffler in the system, but if I also keep the #1........ additional back pressure. A tuned system MAY realize some gain...... I know none of us can really answer that question. Its a crap shoot.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:12 AM   #105
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This past weekend I drove it for over 700 miles without muffler#1. I put it back on and have since drove it for about 80 miles and I drove it hard. I also added a K&N cone filter.

There is for sure no loss of power.

My butt dyno says the engine likes the mod. If you really think about it, by just changing the rear one you are only adding 1 section of 2 ft pipe with a better flowing muffler. Keeping the front #1 muffler or don't keep it either way it works the system is just quiter with it.

Also you don't have to paint the muffler I did to help hide it.

I have modified every car I have ever owned. I would not have posted here if I was not 100% satisfied with the Borla Transverse muffler. The car looks so much better now. It was very week looking from the rear before this mod. I would leave the #1 muffler on at first. You can always have it removed later.
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I am in the same boat. I have never left a car stock....mr2, supra, wrx, 350z...all had their share of modifications. ) Part of the reason I bought the Focus while really wanting a wrx, is that I knew I wouldn't do much to the Focus and with a new baby we can't afford to do much right now ))
I believe Borla exists with 2.5" stubs? You transitioned to 2.25 piping and tips, though. Any reason not to stay 2.5" all the way through to the tip inlet? May make the install simpler. You may be just trying to match a tip that you liked.
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Ooops, I should have mention that. The tips were 2.25 inlet and 3.5 out. I never specified about the pipes.
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Those videos of the resonator have me thinking, what would it sound like if you cut off the first muffler after the CAT and replaced it with a pipe, but left the last two factory ones intact?
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Update on wording

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Those videos of the resonator have me thinking, what would it sound like if you cut off the first muffler after the CAT and replaced it with a pipe, but left the last two factory ones intact?
I changed the wording on those videos. It was actually the 1st muffler that I took off and then later put back on. The second muffler is actually the resonator. I never took it off.

I hope that helps you out.
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I changed the wording on those videos. It was actually the 1st muffler that I took off and then later put back on. The second muffler is actually the resonator. I never took it off.

I hope that helps you out.
I may have worded it wrong. I'm saying without buying any new parts, cut out the first one and put a pipe there instead. I'm wondering what that would make the car sound like with the last 2 stock parts. Not in your case since you already bought a system, but for someone else with a currently un-modified focus.
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