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Old 11-22-2010, 12:38 PM   #1
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FYI on Prothane Front Lower Control Arm Bushing kit

I am in the process of finishing up a lot of work on my 2003 SVTF, including a full Prothane kit. I figured I would post this up just as an FYI.

The Front LCA kit instructions do not even mention removing the outer steel sleeve on the stock bushing. It does mention to just burn out the old bushing and leave the inner bushing sleeve pressed on the LCA, just clean it up. Just to be clear this is for the rear bushing on the front LCA, it's the bracket with 2 bolts that gets mounted to the sub frame.



In all of my searching on this forum and FJ the consensus seemed to be that for the Prothane kit, the outer bushing did not need to be pressed out, but it did for the Energy Suspension kit. And i even saw comments that this is a good reason to get the Prothane kit.

I tried for several hours and ended up messing up my bushing trying to get it in. After getting it in finally, the bushing was compressed so much that there was not way it would fit on the LCA. (Prothane was very helpful and is replacing my messed up bushing for me!)

I have a 6 ton benchtop arbor press I used to do all the rear bushings, but this bracket is ~2.25 inches in diameter and the wall thickness of the outer sleeve of the stock bushing is only ~1/8" so there was no way I could press it out myself.

I lucked out and had a friend at work who is a machinist. He ended up needing to turn (on a lathe) a custom push plate for the top. Which would nest inside the stock outer bushing sleeve and have a lip to catch that 1/8" edge, while fitting inside the bracket diameter. He also had to turn a base on the lathe to support the bracket tube while allowing the outer bushing sleeve to slide though. After these 2 custom pieces were made, it required well over 10 tons of force to press out!!

Not a job I could have done in my garage! A friend suggested hacksawing the outer bushing sleeve into a couple pieces to pry out and just trying not to scuff up the bracket. This might work, but I took advantage of a properly equipped machine shop and good machinist.

Anyway, the point is that the Prothane kit instructions are not exactly clear, and this bushing requires far more effort and expertise then I anticipated. Just be aware of that! Knowing this up front would have saved me a few hours, and the delay of waiting on UPS for my new bushing!

Outer Bushing sleeves removed from bushing brackets & a Prothane bushing:



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Thats great to know, I went w/ energy suspension bushings when I did my CFM LCA's. I saved a couple of wrecked arms to get the rear bushing brackets! You sure learn alot here, awesome!

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Old 11-23-2010, 10:59 PM   #3
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i did not press mine out when i did my lca bushings
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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Never pressed mine out either. greased the new ones up good and they pressed right in with a vise.
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I used a vice and sawsall to cut the inner sleeve. Then used a pry bar and hammer to tap out. Just be carefull when cutting, don't actually have to go thru the sleeve all the way because the prybar and hammer will break it. Also had another tech twist the vice to press bushing in. Used a small prybar to gently persuade bushing in.

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Hi all,

Sorry for digging an old thread.
I have a set of Prothane bushings for front LCA sitting on my trunk.

I'll install it next week but I'm not sure about the proccess to remove the stock bushing from the rear bracket.

The OP said he needed to press out the inner sleeve, but other two said it don't need to be pressed out.

Do I need to remove the inner sleeve? Ou just the rubber bushing and keep the inner sleeve?

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My son just did this job (can't remember who's bushings he went with, but the process is the same).

Those brackets come in two different styles, one where you can just burn out the old material and slide the new bushing in, and one with the pressed in sleeve.

Oddly, his car had one of each; that may be because we swapped a boneyard LCA in to the car at one point, but I digress.

We did indeed use a hack saw to cut the inner sleeve on that (a dremmel might be an option there), and then you'll want a 3lb or 5lb sledge, and an old screw driver with a good tip (my good s.d. is now not good...) or a punch with a nice edge to start curling the edge of the sleeve inward towards center. At that point, the sleeve pulled away from the arm and out it popped. Be sure to use your PPE (gloves, safety glasses).

This was several hours worth of work (2-3 hours all told, on that one arm), so it'll take you a bit.

Or, you might find the "early (?)" style bracket to burn out; either way, you'll have a fair amount of time invested.

Make sure you have a good weekend to work it.

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