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Old 11-02-2012, 02:02 PM   #1471
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They haven't been out that long...? :-\

EDIT: True, STs use the same M8x32mm.... When you guys replaced mounts, etc. Did you replace the bolts? Do you think it could be a bad batch (or several..) of bolts? If Ford/the bolt company throws all the bolts in a vat - who would really know which build date got which batch of bolts?
Yeah, but people should have enough miles on them by now to have this issue manifest itself.

Mine started at ~600 miles.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:22 PM   #1472
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Yeah, but people should have enough miles on them by now to have this issue manifest itself.

Mine started at ~600 miles.
Maybe you need to take it easy on those turns...
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The only cars that seem to have the prob. Normally are the SE handling pack and TI handling pack cars, I know a few S have but almost none
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:11 PM   #1474
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The only cars that seem to have the prob. Normally are the SE handling pack and TI handling pack cars, I know a few S have but almost none
I've seen quite a few posts from SEL owners while following this thread.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #1475
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I've seen quite a few posts from SEL owners while following this thread.
Looking at my spreadsheet... looks like the full gamut of trim levels is covered, minus the ST.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3dTWUpENDlUekE
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:56 PM   #1476
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Looking at my spreadsheet... looks like the full gamut of trim levels is covered, minus the ST.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3dTWUpENDlUekE
Yes, Canadian SEL 5MT lurker here. Started noticing something at around 1500-2000 kilometers and was certain I have whatever problem has been affecting others in this thread by 3000kms.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #1477
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Gotcha, but looks like majority is Handling package cars, either way, it still needs fixed
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:31 PM   #1478
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I sent a message to steeda brandon to see maybe they could develop a aftermarket strut topper to replace the crappy stock one, Maybe aluminum piece with sealed bearings I dunno just an Idea, Should as the guy on here with the Grey '12 focus with Coilovers if he has this issue.

If he doesn't that make the most sense to me and Shit I think all of us would upgrade that
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #1479
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I'll be doing some experimenting today, to further what I found out last night. I originally set out to check the strut mount bolts to make sure that they were still torqued properly, but I also wanted to take a few measurements for reference.

Last week, all 6 strut mounting bolts torqued to 35 ft-lbs. This week, I went to check the torque, and found that two were no longer torqued. After a spin of the torque wrench, I decided to pull them just to check the condition of the bolt. This is what I found:



That's a grade 8.8 M8x1.25x25 bolt on the left, for comparison purposes. Note the stretched threads under the shank on the OEM Ford bolt.

At 35 ft-lbs, these bolts WILL begin to stretch and shear. As of this point, I DO NOT recommend that you torque your bolts to 35 ft-lbs.

Luckily, I work at a dealership, so I was able to dig through the bolt bins and find something that would work, temporarily. I ended up rigging up a spacer setup consisting of a 10mm nut and washer on the 8mm bolt to simulate the spacer on the factory bolts. The spacer on the factory bolt is critical, as it distributes the load onto the strut tower brace. Anything smaller than the OEM washer won't properly distribute the load and the washers will become conical and start to collapse into the hole in the strut tower. Ask me how I know.

So, that being said, I used a 10mm washer and 10mm nut over the 8mm bolt to simulate the OEM spacer, and torqued them to 27 ft-lbs. Since this is only intended to be a temporary setup, I'm going to be replacing these with proper grade 10.9 hardware later today, and I'll also be cutting the heads off of the OEM bolts so I can remove the spacers and drill them out 1mm to fit the non-OEM bolts. For some reason, my shop only had grade 8.8 hardware. (FYI, Metric grade 8.8 = SAE grade 5, and grade 10.9 = SAE grade 8).





Here are the measurements I took for the OEM bolts:
Bolt dia: 8mm (measured 7.78)
Bolt length 35mm
Thread: 1.25
Spacer diameter: 19mm
Spacer thickness: 7mm

I also measured the hole in the strut tower: 9.38mm (i.e., 10mm bolts will not fit)
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So what your saying is Ford is puttin Sub-Par Bolt in our cars and giving us these issues... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING FORD.... we need to get them to upgrade all of our cars to the Grade 10.9 ASAP.
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