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Old 05-10-2014, 06:20 PM   #2131
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If it was Me... I would not give a 2012 Ford Focus to my daughter. I got one for my wife and had to take it and get her a safer and more reliable vehicle. But if your daughter has never driven before it will be easy to train her to move her foot slowly from the brake to the accelerator pedal. Just tell her the transmission needs a moment to engage before she stomps on the gas. And do not train her to "accelerate around the corner" as we all were with good old torque converter transmissions.

The only problem I see is that if she learns on a Focus she'll think all cars perform that badly and shake and grind and shudder with the clutch slipping. Also, My wife never liked it that she could not see well out the back. So I took the 3 large sized head rests out of the back seat, but we seldom have back seat passengers.

That's about it. I have a good repair (for the moment) and watched the seal repair video. My advice is that if you have ANY clutch slipping (shuddering they call it) OR grinding of gears noise, take it back for repair.

Be warned however, that they are instructed to tell you first that it's because of the way YOU drive AND "the Focus will "learn" the way you drive and (presumably) adjust itself accordingly. Nonsense! Total nonsense!
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I feel safe driving it so I have no problem with her driving it. I am not giving it to her. She likes the car to ride in so hopefully she will like to drive it as well.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:46 AM   #2132
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Thanks Sailor. All good points and advice. I will definitely teach defensive driving. I grew up in Massachusetts so I learned "offensive driving".

As well as this car accelerates and handles, I find myself being less defensive. Not dangerous but I can definitely get into traffic quicker than in my old 2006 Malibu (which my 20 year old son has now).
East Coast is a good place to learn "Offensive Driving" from my Trucking experience there (grin).

Time & Place for everything, assertive & decisive in heavy traffic is much better than the timid & indecisive driving you see on occasion. Merging from on ramps & changing lanes in traffic is where I've seen the worst examples - to the point of stopping in the middle of the road!

(Motorcycle & Big Rig experience has a lot to do with mentioning defensive tactics from the start)

Seeing a few complaints of "the car didn't move right when I wanted it to - put me in danger" was something that made me cringe, at least some of those were avoidable. That was the reason for including that scenario early in my comments.

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Old 05-11-2014, 02:59 PM   #2133
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hmmm, my 2014 owners manual says oil change every 5K, never exceed 10K, it also says how to reset the oil life monitor (this should have been done but sounds like it wasn't)
OK Got your message. The 2012 book says nothing about oil change interval except, "No more than one year or 10,000 miles. Therefore I mis-interpreted it in a way. So I changed it about every 5,000. If not for that in the book I would have probably stuck with 3,600 miles like with every other car I ever owned.

What I'm saying is, I don't know if this handy dandy computerized oil change warning light comes on with time or mileage, or what. But what I'm thinking, being a low-tech old guy and all... If I had waited for the oil change warning light to come for the very first time at 15,700 miles and two years after purchase, it probably would have voided the warranty. Who knows? Maybe that's part of the plan! I hope not!

I perceive that they think that they have to warn people about when to change the oil because they think people no longer have any mechanical aptitude or knowledge about cars and internal combustion automobile engines, and are unable to determine when it's time for an oil change, because most schools have dropped industrial arts and auto shop from high school curriculums, in favor of computers. :(
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:04 PM   #2134
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I perceive that they think that they have to warn people about when to change the oil because they think people no longer have any mechanical aptitude or knowledge about cars and internal combustion automobile engines, and are unable to determine when it's time for an oil change, because most schools have dropped industrial arts and auto shop from high school curriculums, in favor of computers. :(
Let me tell you, I have talked to some friends of mine, and that statement is absolutely correct. I have many stories.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:58 PM   #2135
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Well I got the dreaded "rear seal leak". Taking it back in a few days so they can "diagnose" it and go from there.
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Let me tell you, I have talked to some friends of mine, and that statement is absolutely correct. I have many stories.
I have a friend like that... he thought adding 2 quarts of oil was going to fix his engine running rough. It actually had a bad plug and wasn't firing on one cylinder. He also thought his transmission was bad because he had locked his wheel and the car wouldn't turn on...

You really can't be mad at the warnings/suggestions manufactures put on things. Some people need them.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:33 PM   #2137
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:45 PM   #2138
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Just wanted to let all of u know my focus has 33,400 miles and guess what it has been bogging out and vibrating the whole time we have owed it. I think mine is definitely broken in.Same thing goes I have been told it's "normal" I was driving it today the engine light came on and it started bogging out so bad it almost caused me to get into an accident.I took it back to the dealership and now it is reading all kinds of transmission codes and they have to replace several solenoids and they are getting me a rental car.Not sure if that's really gonna fix the problems with this car after doing the research on it.Just Becareful focus owner's because as of right now there's no recall until people start getting hurt I guess.
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We all need to at least file a complain with the NHTSA,
If we want to get a recall
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:59 PM   #2140
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Just wanted to let all of u know my focus has 33,400 miles and guess what it has been bogging out and vibrating the whole time we have owed it. I think mine is definitely broken in.Same thing goes I have been told it's "normal" I was driving it today the engine light came on and it started bogging out so bad it almost caused me to get into an accident.I took it back to the dealership and now it is reading all kinds of transmission codes and they have to replace several solenoids and they are getting me a rental car.Not sure if that's really gonna fix the problems with this car after doing the research on it.Just Becareful focus owner's because as of right now there's no recall until people start getting hurt I guess.
It's probably going to take some people volunteering to get hurt before the recall gets going. May even take someone "taking one for the team" and getting killed. In fact, if we find a whole family to get killed in one of these Focus death traps, the world will take notice.

I suggested a few months ago that someone start a campaign to get the Focus transmission fiasco on 60 Minutes, or 20-20, or some similar news show. I think that's going to be our best bet initially.

Still sucks that Ford and Getrag haven't the slightest clue how to fix the crap joke of a transmission we were all forced to purchase since no dealer stocks manual transmission Focuses. And Ford still has no way for a customer to go to a dealership and specify exactly what options they want and place an order for a vehicle. GM and Chrysler have that option. Not Ford.

Until we start seeing some front page CNN style headlines for the Focus killing people, I'm afraid Ford isn't going to come up with a fix for the Focus. Maybe they should just rename it "Pinto II".
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