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Old 06-29-2011, 03:09 PM   #71
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C'mon Tony407, that was a very lame comeback.

I believe he meant normal eyeglasses. Don't try to sidestep it by getting into technicalities with bifocals and such. Technically you could put black tape all over your headlamps so that the HID's only come out at a certain angle with a nice cutoff, just like a projector. But neither that, or what you said are really smart things in the real world.

He really does seem to know what he is talking about, but I also have seen other articles on the same point, so I seem to think that they fall in line.

I am still really curious about the colour temp. When you think of a lot of the younger people (especially when this article came out), I think a lot of people wanted that blueish look. So if the bulbs being compared were an 8000k bulb or so, you would also loose a lot of lighting visibility.

To be a true comparison, I think that they would have to be 4300k - 5,000k temp.

P.S. Tony407. I've seen a lot of your other posts, and know that you know your electronics. Don't think I'm trying oo knock on you, I just strongly disagree with the whole HID thing (just like we got into it in another post). But I still have respect for what you, you got more balls then me to be pulling apart your brand new car like you did .

Also, if you do get a retrofit kit, let us know how that install goes (should you do it).
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:13 PM   #72
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are the retrofit kits explained in this thread? if not, can someone be so kind to explain what exactly that means? lol
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:27 PM   #73
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I can put on someone else's eyeglasses and see just fine if they're bifocal or trifocal, if I look through the correct part.

I could also retrofit them and have a little flap come down with another set of lenses over the first set of lenses. The right combination might allow me to see just fine.

And there of tons of people out there with lens prescriptions identical to mine. We could swap glasses all day.
To continue that analogy, why would you go through all the work necessary to make the existing glasses work when it is easier, cheaper, and better quality to just get new glasses? Why do an hour's worth of work to avoid doing 30 min worth?

That's the part I just don't get in the whole headlight arguments. If I am going to upgrade something, I'm not going to half-upgrade it or leave pieces out. If I want the best headlights, then I'm going to use all the pieces to actually make it the best, not install one piece & fudge the rest. I don't really understand why others think differently.
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are the retrofit kits explained in this thread? if not, can someone be so kind to explain what exactly that means? lol
Retrofit kits are basically kits that will give you a proper HID setup. The Retrofit kits are projectors lens that will go in place of where the stock reflectors are.
Otherwise you can wait until they come out with a whole headlamp set that will have the projectors already installed.
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STL 314- I have the retrosolutions 4300k kit not the retrofit solution kit. You need the relay harness and resistors for each light. The trick is finding the right resistance to trick the ECU into thinking nothing has changed. Which I'm still having trouble doing. My multimeter has become my new best friend. I'll report back to the forums and hopefully save others from a whole lot of trouble and a bunch of useless opinions on why reflectors and HID's don't go together.

I will use these HID's in the reflector housing though I prefer projectors. I will just have to wait until they produce after-market projector housings because I really don't want to cut open my titanium housings to install projectors.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:01 PM   #76
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P.S The Focus ST headlamp housing look sexy as hell and I'm crossing my fingers they will be swappable with regular focus hatchbacks headlamp housings...
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Checked em out ... look good. Interested to hear if you get em' working right.
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Ford has stated that many of the ST performance parts will be available to install on the base Focus. Crossing my fingers for the headlamps.
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Ford has stated that many of the ST performance parts will be available to install on the base Focus. Crossing my fingers for the headlamps.
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Ok, well after hours of narrowing down the problem I figured it out. It turns out the capacitor that is soldered into the relay kit is causing a jump in resistance that is causing the ecu to read a "Dipped Bulb Light Fault" warning. I Un-soldered the capacitor and BAM it works perfectly. No warnings and no auto cut-off to the lights. Hopefully this last...
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