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Old 01-26-2011, 06:23 PM   #1
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Brakes for Track Day

Question. Have any of you done a track day (HPDE/PDX) with your stock size brakes (Non SVT/NON ST Front Disk, Rear Drum Set Up). I am doing a few track days in the Focus this year and was thinking of doing the following instead of going for the SVT or Rally Front Brake kit. I am planning on using racing quality brake fluid, EBC slotted Disks with Hawk HPS pads up front and a new set of shoes in the rear drums. Any one use a similar set up? If so, did it hold up to track use?


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i would think with those pads you will hold up fine. i run those pads and dont ever have problems with them.
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That is what i run with brembo slotted disks not ebc. Oh and steel brake lines.
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If your just beginning I would say that would be fine, however I’m a big fan of Carbotech brake pads, I would go with the AX6 rears and ether the AX 6 or XP 8 fronts. Most of the guys I run with all use Carbotech pads I have been using there pads for 6 or 7 year and won’t run anything but them. As for fluid Motul RBF600.
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I agree with Schroeder. The HPS should be alright for light track use. Don’t be surprised if you get a little fade if you get them hot though. I used HP+ and centric blank rotors on my SVT last season and had zero problems and plenty of brakes. Im ready to upgrade to Carbotechs for this season I hear great things. As for fluid…I used ATE super blue. As mentioned the Motul RBF600 work great too.
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Thanks for the advice. My Foci is a daily driver so I am leaning towards Centric Blanks with HPS pads & stainless lines. It seems to be cost effective, good enough for a track day, and ok for daily use.

I used to road race motorcycles and there is no worse feeling than popping up from a 6th gear straight and having the brake lever come all the way back to the handlebar. Scary. I want to avoid a similar situation in the Foci.

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I dally drove two sets of AX6 they jsut dusted alot
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Where do you buy your Carbontech Pads?
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Thumbs up Carbotech = win!

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I agree with Schroeder. The HPS should be alright for light track use. Donít be surprised if you get a little fade if you get them hot though. I used HP+ and centric blank rotors on my SVT last season and had zero problems and plenty of brakes. Im ready to upgrade to Carbotechs for this season I hear great things. As for fluidÖI used ATE super blue. As mentioned the Motul RBF600 work great too.
CARBOTECH = WIN!

Been using them for 2 years, no problems.

Last year I went with XP12 up front and XP8 in the rear for a little more bite and bias to the fronts.

OP: you can order direct from the carbotech website: www.ctbrakes.com

I would discuss your needs with the rep, they know thier business. Just give them the details about vehicle type, weight and target usage and they will get you a combo that works well for starters. Then you can adjust the pad compound up or down if needed after you have used up your first set.

I started with the XP10/XP8, then upped the front pads when I installed the bigger engine since I knew the top speeds at the end of the longer striaghts would go up.
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How about the Rotors

Ok. so every seems to agree on the Carbontech pads. What about the rotors? Brembo slotted rotors and Centric blanks have been recommended. I understand that Centric also makes the Powerslot Rotors. Anyone have any experience with those or the ATE rotors with the weird circular slots? By experience I mean track day experience.

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