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Old 10-22-2012, 08:41 AM   #1241
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The Mk3 FF get excellent mileage UNLESS you do stop-and-go driving and then the mileage drops off the table. All cars suffer in stop-and-go but the Mk3 FF really takes a dive. It's not the speed it's the staring/stopping and idling at lights that really kill the mileage.


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That's exactly it. The Mk3 is the worst car I'v ever owned for stop and go driving as far as MPGs are concerned..
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:44 AM   #1242
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This car is a joke in the city.

I get between 23-25 with a light foot, and the same mileage when I accelerate a little harder. Yet, on the highway I get in the 40s consistently going around 65 MPH.

The thing I'v noticed that really kills it in city driving is if you have any long periods of idling. I can get it above 30 only when I drive at obscure times during which no one else is on the road.

It's somewhat disappointing because my Civic that I traded in had no problem averaging 32mpg in the same city routes.
I drove in a Civic 2012 this weekend with a friend and her MPG screen displayed 33mpg and she said that was 100% pure city mileage (back & forth to work and picking up kids at daycare). I couldn't believe it as this is what I get on highway with my Focus!
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:04 AM   #1243
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Ok,had the car 5 months and accumulated 5k miles and only had one extended hwy trip across and back over the continental divide and netted a decent 33mpg on that trip and was over 75 most of the trip with an extended period doing 90-110.

Now outside of that hwy trip my Focus has seen nearly all city driving and almost 100% of the time the AC was in use til recently and we've been averaging 27-29 and that's with a balance of my wife's conservative driving style and my more agressive,get up to speed quick style so I am pleased with getting a little over what Ford rates it's city MPG.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:06 AM   #1244
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I'm not sure about the new ones, (test drove one before I bought my Focus but didn't like the interior quality it was worse than my 1995 Civic Ex), but mine would idle at 300 RPM not to mention it only has a 1.6l motor. It wasn't quite as good on the highway though.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:40 AM   #1245
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Has anyone considered aero dynamics into this? If the new Focus was designed with aero dynamics in mind, and because of that achieves such great MPGs at speed, it might attribute to the crappy stop and go mileage. Since your not really getting the benefits of the aerodynamics below 20 mph.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:18 AM   #1246
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Has anyone considered aero dynamics into this? If the new Focus was designed with aero dynamics in mind, and because of that achieves such great MPGs at speed, it might attribute to the crappy stop and go mileage. Since your not really getting the benefits of the aerodynamics below 20 mph.
Agreed. It's not a particularly light car, either. You could always remove all the seats and spare tire - see how much gas that saves you driving around town?

Or get 15" aluminum rims with LRR tires... and if it's still not high enough for you, throw some hybrid technology in there!
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Agreed. It's not a particularly light car, either. You could always remove all the seats and spare tire - see how much gas that saves you driving around town?

Or get 15" aluminum rims with LRR tires... and if it's still not high enough for you, throw some hybrid technology in there!
Base curb weight of the hatch with DCT was about 2948 lbs vs a curb weight of 2359 lbs when new 18 years ago for my old 5 speed Prizm/ Corolla that's 589 lbs more weight yet currently even in town I'm averaging roughly the same mileage as when I had stopped tracking it on the old car. Of course stop and go traffic hurts fuel economy, but under equal conditions roughly I was maybe averaging 31 mpg at the end from the Prizm, and in town mostly its been between 30-34 mpg on my daily commute into work (10 miles each way approximately) but that's technically closer to 50% city 50% highway but not really, because its maybe 1 mile to the freeway, 2.5 miles on the freeway, and another 3.5 miles in town (stop light to stop light), and another 2 miles or so when that road becomes a freeway, and maybe another mile into the office on city streets.

Active grille shutter system is supposed to be active all the time to help speed up cold engine warm up performance, and higher speed aerodynamics.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:32 AM   #1248
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I get great mileage on the highway and can get 40mpg in the city -- so long as I'm not doing stop-and-go driving. There's a stretch of city roads I often take that has a speed limit of 35-40mph and if I can put it on cruise and make most of the lights I can get about 40mpg even in city driving. That same road, however, if I wind up stopping for a bunch of traffic lights can knock me down into the low 20's. The Mk3 FF get's great mileage except during stop-and-go driving and then it's actually worse than average.

I'm not 100% sure why the Mk3 should be so sensitive to stop-and-go driving but mileage really drops off the table in stop-and-go driving...

My previous car, a 2004 Toyota Matrix XR, averaged about 33.5mpg over its lifetime whereas my 2012 FF Ti HB I'm averaging over 37mpg so the FF is getting about 10% better mileage. However, in stop-and-go driving I'd get roughly 28mpg with the Toyota whereas the FF is more like 24mpg. That swing can't be explained by aerodynamics or rolling resistance...


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Old 12-03-2012, 01:10 AM   #1249
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Does anybody have a copy of that graph that showed the EPA's conversion for average MPH to City/Highway percentage of travel? It disappeared.

I believe it was on this page:

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...255344&page=48
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:32 AM   #1250
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Ave 38 - 39 at 65 MPH on the highway. S model, 5 spd. Down to 34 - 35 if I have stop and go driving through the city (about 20 miles of a 140 mile commute). Lowest I've ever got was about 29 with a 50/50 mix of city and highway. Very pleased.
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