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Old 03-17-2011, 04:36 PM   #1
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Power steering noise?

Never had issues with power steering on my other vehicles, so this is new to me.

So I know the manual says occasional power steering noise is normal. However, this is pretty regular. Happens once, sometimes twice a day. The noise occurs usually after hard acceleration. We're getting 33mpg in mainly city driving, so we don't gun it often. Today, after a hard acceleration, I was idling at a light and the noise was happening at idle. Usually it only makes noise when accelerating normally or when turning; again, after hard acceleration.

Fluid is topped off.

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Old 03-17-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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what does it sound like? a whine?
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A whine, yes. I'll try to record the noise on my iPhone today on my drive home from work here in an hour. I'll upload it to YouTube if I can get it.

Also, I've parked in the driveway when it was happening once and turned the wheels with the hood up.
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idk thats wierd. i have never had that problem. have you checked make sure your not leaking a little bit? maybe your pump is bad? when you turn on your car does the ps fluid lvl go down at all? we dont need a vid save your time we all know what a ps whine sounds like. haha
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i know exactly what he's talking about. happens to me too, or rather, it did, when my car was running. its like a low ghastly moan.
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i know exactly what he's talking about. happens to me too, or rather, it did, when my car was running. its like a low ghastly moan.
That's exactly it.

And wow, okay, the fluid level is at MIN. Huh. It must have a leak somewhere. I checked it... Oh wow. It's been two weeks since I checked it.
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Pump is shot. My 07 did the same thing.
good news is advance carries reman pumps for around 45 bucks.
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I'd put the car up on ramps and LOOK to find the leak. My PS system has/had 2 areas where it leaks....the coolant line at the coupling near the bottom of the radiator on the drivers side...and from out of the boots on the ends of the rack. I'm going to try using Lucas PS leak fix fluid...a lot of people claim it works.
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Check for leaks.

The Ford (all Fords) power steering pump noise is something that happens when the pump is going bad, old, or the wrong fluid is put in it. Most of the time- especially if someone says "I just changed the pump and it still does this"- they have put in the wrong fluid. Reading comprehension is part of the problem- even on this forum I get feedback against what I've double checked. The right fluid is either standard power steering fluid, or Type F ATF. In the Owner's manual it will be listed as "Mercon", and give a Motorcraft part number that is different from the AT fluid which is MerconV. Lots of people think this means that it uses any Mercon, but old Type F is thicker, and is the same as standard power steering fluid. All other Mercons are too thin. It works, but it moans.

One thing you can try doing now, to see if it goes away, is bleed the system. It's very simple, rotate the steering all the way to one side, and then all the way to the other side with the engine running. Do this a few times. If the fluid was low before you topped it off, this might help. You'll still have to find and repair the leak, but if air in the system was the cause, then you'll alleviate it.

I personally advise against stop leaks. These things are designed to seal up a system when the fluid comes into contact with air. Well what happens when the fluid leaks out? Anyway, the Lucas stuff is just a thickener, and that will solve seepage from old seals in some cases. In other cases it will completely break the seal. If you're handy with a wrench, pop your head under the car- find the pressure and return line, see if you can turn the pressure line fitting with a wrench. Do not be surprised if the pressure line seems floppy or loose. The line should move when the fitting is tight. I'd then clean all the built up crud off so I could see where the leak was.

Hopefully that will solve all your problems, if not, then you'll need to either replace the O-ring seal at the pressure line, replace the pressure line itself, or whatever is causing the problem.
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IF my rack was not leaking at the seals (1/8" loss of fluid every 300 miles?....under the boots) I would flush the whole system and use Mobile 1 synth ATF with some Lubegard additive. I did this with my truck...got some metallic soup looking fluid out...did need to put the front up on jacks and move the steering back and forth with engine running to bleed it...not a good idea to try and drive it and expect it to bleed.

As it is...with the Lucas stuff I might get a couple of years out of it yet....not much point in Mobil 1 and Lubegard. I'm currently doing a sort of easy flush...just using a t baster to get some fluid out and putting in new Mercon. I solved the line leak at the coupling near the rad by just moving the coupler back and forth...leak stopped.
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