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Old 06-05-2011, 12:16 PM   #1
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Couple 2.0 questions

I own a 2005 zx3 focus and am looking to upgrade my entire intake system. I am looking at the cosworth intake manifold and on fswerks it says it will only fit the 2.3, however, the cosworth site says it will fit both. If it will not fit my 2.0 I was going to look into modifying the engine to meet the 2.3 specs. How would I go about that. Is it just a crank swap or will I have to the the engine bored. I also will be doing a port an polish regardless. Thanks in advance for the help


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the intake mani will fit on a 2.0, and seeing as you have an 05 you have the right style power steering pump. Youll need a tune to go along with it as well as all of the usual bolt on stuff.

You could do a 2.3 crank with custom rods in the 2.0 block, but why? its much cheaper to get a 2.3 bottom end and use that. This also helps the "port and polish" you talked about- the 2.3 head is a better flowing design than the 2.0 and is a better starting point. light clean up work and a good valve job and that head will be good for anything except an extreme build.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:11 PM   #3
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the reason they say it wont fit is if your power steering reservoir is in the front by the intake manifold. I've also heard some say the manifold is too big for the d20 and i don't know how many people have put them on d20's. Maybe some that has done it could chime in. but for the same price you could locate a used header and get a tune and net better gains? idk what you have done already. good luck!
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Have a look here: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128092

I've read somewhere on FF that another approach is to correct the Cossie IM's corner interference with a minor cut-and-weld modification, but I didn't find the thread with a quick search. Have fun tracking it down, somebody.
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You could do a 2.3 crank with custom rods in the 2.0 block, but why? its much cheaper to get a 2.3 bottom end and use that. This also helps the "port and polish" you talked about- the 2.3 head is a better flowing design than the 2.0 and is a better starting point. light clean up work and a good valve job and that head will be good for anything except an extreme build.[/QUOTE]

You can't install a 2.3L crank in a 2.0L Block. The 2.3 Block is about about 1/2" higher to allow the longer stroke. Pistons would pop up above the block. I am not aware of shorter rods to make this work.

The Cosworth manifold would be a mistake for a mild NA engine. Cosy manifold with a Turbo would be great.
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You could do a 2.3 crank with custom rods in the 2.0 block, but why? its much cheaper to get a 2.3 bottom end and use that. This also helps the "port and polish" you talked about- the 2.3 head is a better flowing design than the 2.0 and is a better starting point. light clean up work and a good valve job and that head will be good for anything except an extreme build.
You can't install a 2.3L crank in a 2.0L Block. The 2.3 Block is about about 1/2" higher to allow the longer stroke. Pistons would pop up above the block. I am not aware of shorter rods to make this work.

The Cosworth manifold would be a mistake for a mild NA engine. Cosy manifold with a Turbo would be great.[/QUOTE]

You can install the 2.3 crank in the 2.0 block. You are right about the increased deckheight, thats why a set of shorter custom rods would be needed. Tom offers/ offered a 2.0l based stroker like this.
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if you do the whole intake system and don't touch the exhaust stuff then your defeating the purpose of any gains.

if you feed a fat guy a burger and he's constipated do you really think he's going to shake his groove thing?................nope, until he releaves him self.
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^^^lol wow
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