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Old 02-03-2011, 08:49 PM   #1
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2001 Focus Timing belt broke

Have a 2001 Ford Focus, engine code P. Went out to start my car and it would not turn over, tried 6-7 times and gave up. Brother-in-law/mechanic said the timing belt broke, since this is a 2.0L NON-Interference engine, what is the likelihood that I did any additional damage? He is telling me I should buy a junkyard engine and have it installed, going to cost me $2700.00...

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Old 02-03-2011, 09:52 PM   #2
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The zetec is a non-interference engine meaning if the timing belt breaks the engine will not suffer any damage. You shouldn't have caused any damage by trying to start it. Just replace the broken timing belt with a new one and you should be good to go.
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You can buy a new used Focus for $2700. It is extremely likely that everything is good and you simply need a new timing belt. That is the good thing about a non interference engine. Maybe the brother in law/mechanic isn't the best person to install the new belt.
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Yup, no damage I bet. All you need is the timing belt component kit ($70 from RockAuto), and the tool kit ($40 from Massive Speed Systems), and about 5 hours and you're good. The tool kit is so you can put the crank at TDC and align the cams.

It's not that hard. Did my Zetec in December and my SVT this month. SVT is interference though, and I was a bit scared.
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^^x w/e

Non interference = stuffs wont hit. Your timing is just totally screwed up. Just get a new belt and set the timing and you should be good to go. And in all honestly, 100 bucks to find out if you do or do not need to spend 2700, worth a shot imo. Realistically your car is totally fine though.

And you should pop down further in the forums and go to the michigan regional thread. Ive completely rebuilt a zetec and a few others have done swaps and understand the ins and outs of the engine. We might be a better choice than your bro in law. Does he know its non interference?
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:29 AM   #6
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..... engine code P..... it would not turn over ...... since this is a 2.0L NON-Interference engine...... junkyard engine and have it installed, going to cost me $2700.00...

Any helpful input is appreciated.

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It's a trick question - "engine code P" refers to the eighth digit of the VIN. Also known as "VIN P" or SOHC, SPI. A non interference engine will turn over even if the timing belt is broken. Are we sure the SOHC is non-interference?

The valves extend beyond the plane on the head but there are reliefs in the pistons - are the reliefs deep enough (why else would they put reliefs for the valves in the piston heads? Floating/stuck valves.).

So - if the engine won't turn over could it be that something is stuck between the piston and the head? Or worse - broken in the cylinder (rod/piston....)?

Have you tried to turn it over by hand? Maybe it's the starter or an electrical problem - what sounds is it making?

I won't say it (valve seat) but what is the mileage on the original engine? Was it running fine before you last shut the engine off?
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:53 AM   #7
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NOn-interference = no damage to valves. Put a new timing belt on it and go.

Does you valve cover say "Split-Port Injection" or Zetec? That's how we identify these engines. Zetec is DOHC, and the spark plugs go through the center of the head. SPI is SOHC and the spark plugs go into the side of the head like most OHV and SOHC engines.
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yeh sounds like the bother in law isnt very bright
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:40 PM   #9
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this is what i would do....

buy a complete timing belt kit including the tensioner, idler pulley, and belt, and you midas well do the water pump while your in there if you car has high mileage and the pump hasn't been changed yet...
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Yah, Buying an engine just to get a new timing belt is DEFINITELY paying more than you need to....
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