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Old 10-06-2010, 07:13 AM   #1
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Camber bolts or not?

I've got the FRPP kit from Hilbish on my SVT and I've noticed the rear tires are wearing on the inside(cupping) more than usual. Should I get the Adj camber bolts or the adj upper control arms? I know one of these has to be the cause. I've had it aligned 3 times and each time the tech says it's good. Tires don't say so. It does lean in at the rear at tad, a smidgen, a skoshe, a RCH or whatever you want to fill in to estimate a little bit. So yeah, someone with experience and knowledge on this chime in if you don't mind.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:06 AM   #2
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I would get them and get another alignment done. Make sure to keep up on your tire rotations, as well.
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Them as in camber bolts or adj control arms.......or both?
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Bolts.
Way cheaper, and easier/quicker to adjust.

I opted for the arms, because I wanted a larger range of adjustment, but in your case I'm sure the bolts would be fine.

By the way, if you do get the bolts, here's some settings to shoot for to get minimal rear tire wear:
Camber: Keep it right around -1.
Toe: Have them set it at the MINIMUM recommened toe IN setting.
^^^.04 Total Toe IN (.02 each side)

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^^^Dougs right on. I bet the camber isn't whats wearing your tires, its the toe setting. I have a 2" drop and have the bolts, there's plenty of adjustment there.
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I've got the FRPP kit from Hilbish on my SVT and I've noticed the rear tires are wearing on the inside(cupping) more than usual. Should I get the Adj camber bolts or the adj upper control arms? I know one of these has to be the cause. I've had it aligned 3 times and each time the tech says it's good. Tires don't say so. It does lean in at the rear at tad, a smidgen, a skoshe, a RCH or whatever you want to fill in to estimate a little bit. So yeah, someone with experience and knowledge on this chime in if you don't mind.
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The truth is that the tech DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT ALIGNMENT SPECS FOR A FOCUS ARE!!!!! He's simply confirming that it's within the spec range and that's simply not good enough. There are "allowable" spec combinations that WILL EAT TIRES. Please read the alignment specs in the stickies at the top of this page. You'll have to ask for them or you won't get them. In almost all cases you will need a rear camber correction devise to do it correctly.

I am concerned when you say the rear tires are "cupping" with new shocks installed. Most cupping is caused by worn shocks. That not being the case, you need to look for other items that may be worn such as control arm bushings etc. as well as tire balance.
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I had to use camber bolts on my Focus when I got my suspension from Hilbish and not had any problems out of my tires wearing wrong yet .

But I do keep them rotated almost every other oil change .
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Okay, so maybe cupping is the wrong term. I can see the tires wearing more on the inside and they do seem to have a roller coaster pattern going on there. I rotate and balance them every 3k like clockwork. I'm always checking air pressure and such. I appreciate the alignment advice and I'll definitely use it, as well as getting camber bolts. I hope this works, because these BFG KDWs are pricey...........Thanks for all the advice and I'll keep you guys posted as to how the outcome is.
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I installed the FRPP Kit this spring when I did the SVT rear sub frame swap. I was debating of I should install the camber bolts at the same time. I didn't and everything is fine for me. I did have a good alignment done and I think that is what it needed to keep everything in check.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:16 AM   #10
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Well, I've had 3 good alignments done and still..........
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