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Old 10-07-2010, 11:34 PM   #331
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Bad day? Why so defensive? All I am saying is this looks just like a Mazda 3. I want a lightweight hatchback, not something that looks like a station wagon with some ECO friendly crap engine for all the hippie tree huggers. Ford needs to bring the real RS here as Subrau did with the STi and Mitsubishi with the Evo.

As for now, I guess I will be turbo charging my lightweight 05 ZX3. That should hold me over for awhile
What RS? Even if Ford wanted to bring one here they couldnt because there isnt an RS Focus yet.


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Old 10-08-2010, 01:50 AM   #332
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not feelin the bug-eyed bulgy headlights in this shot. :(
Hey at least with a plate on there it takes some of the "hugeness" out of that grille. Or, it makes it look like a bottom-feeding catfish with a license plate stuck in it's mouth.

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Bad day? Why so defensive? All I am saying is this looks just like a Mazda 3...
Funny, when I looked at the picture above, something about that angle made me think of Mazda 3. Otherwise I don't see the resemblance.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:17 AM   #333
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What RS? Even if Ford wanted to bring one here they couldnt because there isnt an RS Focus yet.


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What are you talking about? The Ford Focus RS has been in Europe for years...
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:35 AM   #334
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Bad day? Why so defensive? All I am saying is this looks just like a Mazda 3. I want a lightweight hatchback, not something that looks like a station wagon with some ECO friendly crap engine for all the hippie tree huggers. Ford needs to bring the real RS here as Subrau did with the STi and Mitsubishi with the Evo.

As for now, I guess I will be turbo charging my lightweight 05 ZX3. That should hold me over for awhile
Nah, just reminding you of what you seemed to not think of. I have no reason to be defensive.

Now, you're saying the this new ST with an 80hp increase over the SVT (which was the best Focus we could lay our hands on) has an ECO friendly crap engine? Are you serious? An ECU reflash with some intake and exhaust work could easily bring this engine up to 300hp without breaking a sweat.

Stop contradicting yourself. You list the MS3 with your EVO/STi choices but now the ST looks like a wagon, which would make the MS3 wagon-like as well.... so what is it?
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:05 AM   #335
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The hatchback vs. wagon debate mbell is putting on is laughable. He knows nothing, my suggestion to him .
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some ECO friendly crap engine for all the hippie tree huggers.
As for now, I guess I will be turbo charging my lightweight 05 ZX3. That should hold me over for awhile
If the terminology EcoBoost bothers you, you might prefer what we in Europe call this engine 2.0l SCTi (turbo charged in case you did not know) 247hp and 266lbft torque, does that take care of your green tree-hugging fears.
Before slagging the Focus ST give it a test drive 1st before getting your knickers in a knot. Current Focus ST gets big time respect from pretty credible reviewers like the Top Gear gang and most other euro auto journalists.
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What are you talking about? The Ford Focus RS has been in Europe for years...


Posted via FF Mobile Oooh, you mean that one thats discontinued and based off of the Mkii focus and is a billion years old and already old news and outdated...oh, that one.
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Posted via FF Mobile Oooh, you mean that one thats discontinued and based off of the Mkii focus and is a billion years old and already old news and outdated...oh, that one.
Now, now don't discredit these previous two wonderful machines.

I think he was speaking as if there is currently RS models on the market.

There is, and there are.... but used.

I predict a larger level of aftermarket support for the 2012 ST and it's relatives in different trim packages. For a decent amount of money (less than the cost of applying forced induction to a SVT) you too could have your own rally car and still have a functional interior to tote your four best fanboy friends!
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Posted via FF Mobile Oooh, you mean that one thats discontinued and based off of the Mkii focus and is a billion years old and already old news and outdated...oh, that one.
Haha, mbell pwnd again...
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