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Old 09-06-2010, 12:23 PM   #1
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Ford Focus Brake Problem

Hi everyone, nice to meet you
I wonded if anyone can help with a small problem

Ford focus TDCI 2003 estate

I changed the rear disks and pads and blead the brakes
Then tightned the handbrake back up inside the car

The breaks feel good, no spongyness ect..

The only problem is the handbrake wont hold enough
Iv tried adjusting to 7 notches, 4 or 5 notches and even 2 notches and it will not hold the car.

When i did them i had to undo the bolt and take off the brake caliper handbrake brackets so i could get the handbrake cable off, so when i put the braket back on over the bolt, it seemed to have teeth on the bracket and the nut,

have i not put the nut on in exacyly the same place as i took it off ?
or is it something else ?

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Old 09-06-2010, 03:25 PM   #2
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When this old, the outher shroud of the handbrake cable thend to collapse a bit, so when you engage the handbrake, the shroud collapses, so everything looks good, until you pull the lever, (had the same problem myself) just replace both & it will will prpably be good..
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:31 PM   #3
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thanks mate
do you mean replace handbrake cable ?

Also the handbrake was fine b4 i changed the rear pads and disks

Basically - the handbrake wont go on enough even when adjusted up to 3 notches
I just found it funny how the cable caliper levers were spigitod with several groves ?
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:31 AM   #4
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Yes i ment the handbrake cables, but it seems a bit strange , when you say they worked ok b4 the pad replacement, did y use a haynes manual or something similar? If I understand you right you have tried adjusting the nut on the handbrake lever itself?
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hi, yes iv adjusted the nut on the handbrake itself but no matter how tight or slack you go it wont hold enough, and when i adjusted too tight the rear wheels binded (like they should if too tight) but it still wouldnt hold on a little hill

The part i cant find any info on is the rear brake caliper handbrake lever ( where the handbrake cable attatches to the caliper ) ( 1 on each caliper )

i had to take the lever off the caliper (1 nut) to get handbrake cable off easier, but when i came to refit it,the hole on the braket which slides over the bolt on the caliper looked spigeted , as if you can fit it at different intervals

This lever i am on about has a small return spring which ensures the handbrake losens off when you release it

the only picture i can find is this, it shows the bracket / lever on the caliper (no cable attatched)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...t/IMG_0857.jpg
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:27 AM   #6
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Posted via FF MobileJust a thought here, haven`t played with the SVT style rear discs with mechanical disc E-Brake setup yet, just other disc/mechanical types. From what I understand, you need to screw the piston back in to retract piston for new pad installation, then it self adjusts back out to match the new pads with repeated E-brake application. I`m guessing from exp. with similar types that it hasn`t been cycled enough times to self-adjust & take up the slack for proper operation yet. Until it adjusts up to the proper position, moving the lever won`t apply enough force to hold - you could check by moving it to see if any effect at each wheel (when jacked so you can spin whl) Repeated application should adjust it automatically if all is working right..... Cable/lever adj. shouldn`t have been needed if OK before, just cycling `till auto-adj takes up slack.....
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hi sailer, thanks for the reply, sounds good
il will look into that

one thing i did, i blead the brakes without the cycle tool which is need for abs aparently
i wonder if thats why the pistons arnt taking up the slack too

if i cant solve, im gona book in at garage to check it
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Posted via FF Mobile Hey, just a thought that might apply - enough ideas flyin` around and eventually we figure it out!
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thats true , should no by tomoro night, il post back on here when solution found

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Old 09-09-2010, 02:14 PM   #10
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solved

hi everyone
thanks for the replies / advice

Especially Sailer, it was what you said mate, thanks very much, appreciated

Basically it sounds like i should have loosend the handbrake before doing anything, then gave the brakes a good pumping to send the caliper pistons fully onto the pads (auto adjust)
Then tightned up the handbrake

Its great now

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