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Old 08-02-2010, 07:56 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Autocross first timers

Everyone's right when they say "Just go out there and run, and worry about mods and tires later". I did have to air my Toyos up to 50#/45# f/b to get them to hold up. But I still wasn't able to push the car anywhere near it's limits.

After 6 runs I was getting closer, but just getting used to reading the cones took a couple runs, then pushing the car harder and pitching it through the slalom took another few runs. Alot of guys on here could've run a '94 escort and beat me yesterday. But it was a BLAST and I can't wait for the next race!

I do plan on running H-stock (even though I want new rims in a BAD way) next year just cuz I think I stand a chance at being competitive. Any mods to the car and I think I'd be SOL, just because the guys in the non-stock classes are maniacs and BEAT the LIVIN SCHLITZ out of their cars! I don't see the point in running to the rev-limiter the whole time


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Old 08-02-2010, 10:48 AM   #2
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you got the right idea! just go out and have fun. if you aren't having fun in autocross then you won't be motivated to get any better. keep going out and support your region.

that PSI seems a bit hight to me.. did you check your contact patch? i doubt you were using it all especially after a few runs when the psi raises.. i normally run my tires at 37-40 in the front. and the contact patch is spot on.

you will catch onto reading cones, course walk is key to this. so is looking ahead. if you're looking ahead you will have enough time to set up for the next element and adjust accordingly.

honestly being competitive is going to take a lot longer then a couple of events. being competitive even at the local level will take AT LEAST 3 seasons of driving. most of the time longer then that. i've heard people say it took them 5 full seasons to catch up to the leaders in there class. unless you're the true stig it will take a lot longer.
a lot of people say don't worry about being competitive when you start out, i see how this can be helpful (not getting discouraged with your times and class positions) but honestly for me, i think trying to be competitive helps me work on my driving even more. i feel it challenges me to become a better driver and want to learn the most i can out of every run i take. that's just my 2cents.

oh, autcross isn't THAT bad on a car. it may seem like they are beating it up, but they're really only pushing the car to it's limits, that's what it was made for. riding the limiter for 40-60 seconds at a time isn't bad at all. that's what it's there for!
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Old 08-02-2010, 06:36 PM   #3
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being competitive even at the local level will take AT LEAST 3 seasons of driving.
Uhh, I'm still going to be telling myself otherwise, at least for the next three seasons.

The sidewalls weren't holding up at 42 or 44 so I kept going up. I used chalk on the tires and when I got to max rated psi it seemed to be the best, along with the fantastic handling which I didn't know was possible with the Toyos

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Sliding the front tires ( understeering ) can give a false reading on tire roll. Pushing to hard in the corners with a front drive is easy to do. The sound street tires make can help learn the feel of trying to hard in a corner and getting it right. Pushing them beyond a squeal means your not cornering as quickly as you could be. This is where the term - slower is faster - comes into play. The longer you auto-x , the more you will here that term. And have fun first!
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First off,you don't know it yet but you'll have a tonnnnn of fun with auto x if you aren't hooked after your first couple of runs.This is my first season and im about to compete in my 6th event and im just learning lines and braking points.It takes time to become competitive.One of the things i have learned and mistakes a lot of newer guys have is they look down when driving.If you keep your head up and look 2 gates a head it's easier to read cones and dial in your lines.You think you might hit cones but just push foward and keep your head up and you wont hit cones.Also if your not hitting cones in some runs your not pushing hard enough,but there are plenty of runs and time for that.Just go out,RELAX,and have a good time doing it.Good luck!
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Yeah I joined up with MAC. You drive that orange ZTS? See post "Classing confusion"
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Yeah I joined up with MAC. You drive that orange ZTS? See post "Classing confusion"
No, I don't run MAC, but many of those guys come doen here to MIlwaukee.



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You have a lot of quality drivers to tutor you...a very good club there.
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I love those ZX2s. Especially that one
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I would love to try an auto-x maybe next year, where could I find information on this? I see you guys are close to me.
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