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Old 03-09-2010, 12:29 PM   #11
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Hey.

Thanks again for responding guys.

Being a novice in the focus seen it is appreciated.

Sorry for the re-post but wanted to make sure before purchasing.

What's the old saying?

Measure twice, cut once.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:03 AM   #12
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Haven't seen this problem exactly, but I have had quite a few issues with my tumble flaps (car's in the shop as we speak for it right now, actually...).

The first one was with one not opening, now one isn't closing, and I've had several issues with the entire system (actuator/solenoid/vacuum lines/etc). I've been toying with the idea of just deleting them altogether.
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I originally posted this in the general forum with only a couple of responses and it was suggested to me that I re-post it specifically here.

If you have read this already sorry for the re-post.

While reading up on the focus I came across this article written in this forum.

What caught my eye was the parts that I bolded.

I noticed that it states "early versions".

My question is does anybody know at what point they corrected this flaw and/or the safe cutoff date for the 2005?

The reason I ask is that I'm in the process of looking for a Focus and if I come across a 2005, buying it would be predicated on knowing that I'm NOT purchasing one with this design flaw.

Thanks again everyone.
I'm not a tech myself, but if I remember my research correctly (which I was doing for a friend) I think this issue mainly applied to the 2000-2002 model years (I'm quite sure the 2005 models [and later] are not affected since Ford sort of re-did the engine layout in/around 2005 and later).
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:37 PM   #14
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Merged duplicate threads.

And to the above poster...
It's impossible for this problem to be on 2000-2002 models, since those are Zetec models.
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I've got an 06 and have that clicking noise comin out of my intake manifold, i think I'm just gonna get the 05 PS setup and a cossie manifold to eliminate all doubt
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[i]Posted via FF Mobile[/The quote in question is found verbatim inWikipedia, and to bring up an old maxim, GIGO! Garbagein, garbage out... Or The information superhighway, a thousand garbage trucks in formation..... If it ain`t been heard of here, and no one can even figure out HOW it could happen... it probably didn`t. Possible confusion with the SPI dropped valve seat issue...
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^^good point. I can make stuff up and put it on wikipedia too...

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This should clear up the "swirl plates" engine damage issue

Found it here...was important to me as i am looking to upgrade my spi wagon to a 2006 wagon with a duratec 20.

http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?...nlet_manifolds

"Background

The 1.8 and 2.0 Duratec-HE petrol engines fitted to Mk3 Mondeos have swirl plates (also called tumble flaps) fitted in the inlet tracts to modify the incoming airflow under certain conditions for allegedly improved smoothness, economy and emissions.

However, the flaps in early vehicles (built up to late 2002, don't rely on your registration) are susceptible to falling apart and getting ingested by the engine
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It goes on to say should be safe after 2003....

SOMEONE REALLY SHOULD EDIT THAT WIKIPEDIA ENTRY!!!!
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Haven't seen this problem exactly, but I have had quite a few issues with my tumble flaps (car's in the shop as we speak for it right now, actually...).

The first one was with one not opening, now one isn't closing, and I've had several issues with the entire system (actuator/solenoid/vacuum lines/etc). I've been toying with the idea of just deleting them altogether.
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I've got an 06 and have that clicking noise comin out of my intake manifold, i think I'm just gonna get the 05 PS setup and a cossie manifold to eliminate all doubt
You guy's could get a 23 escape manifold= no imrc but still uses the imtv. You'd need a tune as a cossie manifold.
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