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Old 09-29-2009, 12:56 PM   #1
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2008-2009 manual transmission shifting problem

Hey everyone,

2009 Focus SES 5spd man, 11,000 miles.

I have had problems shifting the car, ever since it was new. It felt as if the clutch wasn't engaging, even when pressed to the floor, which would result in the shifting not being as free and smooth as it should have been. Shifting felt more like I had to time it to the engine, in other words like shifting without the clutch.

I had the brakes bled (the clutch works off of brake fluid in the new cars) almost right after I bought the car new, and that solved the problem for a few months, however, the problem came back when the weather was cold. I have noticed this a few times on this forum.

My service advisor believes that the problem may be with the slave cylinder, which pushes the fluid down. It may not be pushing enough and may need to be replaced.

I am posting this because I have noticed this a few times on this board and it may be of benefit to other users, as it is covered under warranty. I believe that it will be quite expensive as it requires pulling out the tranny.

I have not yet had this done, however, in my years of working on cars, motorcycles, bicycles, and other fluid-related equipment it does make sense.

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Old 09-29-2009, 12:58 PM   #2
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warranty time!!!!

im my car, you barely have to press the pedal to engage the clutch, its really nice!!!
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:00 PM   #3
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your under warranty, so it is much easier for you.

i have a similar issue, shifts are not crisp unless you fully fully fully depress the clutch. I was going to try a simple bleed of the clutch assembly. i don't notice any leaks but i would like to think that though entropy after 8 years, a small amount of air could enter the system.
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Old 09-29-2009, 04:19 PM   #4
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yeah i am glad i am under warranty...otherwise it would be $$$
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Surely the dealer wasn't that dumb. Why would they have bled the brakes only and not the clutch? I think that they probably actually did bleed the clutch (and possibly the brakes as well), but you misunderstood the info. You did have an improvement with the clutch which would have occurred only if they had bled the clutch. To clarify.......pushing the pedal down disengages the clutch, when the pedal is up.......it's engaged. Let us know what they do or replace next.
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I've been on this forum only a week and I saw few people complain about transmission.
Sorry I can't help you but all I know Ford's transmissions (at least Focus MkII EU) is excellent. Really excellent.
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Surely the dealer wasn't that dumb. Why would they have bled the brakes only and not the clutch? I think that they probably actually did bleed the clutch (and possibly the brakes as well), but you misunderstood the info. You did have an improvement with the clutch which would have occurred only if they had bled the clutch. To clarify.......pushing the pedal down disengages the clutch, when the pedal is up.......it's engaged. Let us know what they do or replace next.
That's what I was implying...the clutch works from the brake fluid...bleed the brakes, you are working for the brakes and the clutch. sorry i did not mention this
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The Clutch works on Brake Fluid not on THE Brake fluid. Your clutch and your brakes are two totally separate systems which both happen to be hydraulic and use brake fluid. The dealer bled the clutch, not the brakes (I hope). Leaking clutch slave cylinders and master cylinders are not unheard of. Since the car is relatively new and under warranty, this should be sorted out by the service department for free.
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right...what I am trying to do is tell owners of the 2008-2009 (and possibly 2010) Focus with a manual transmission is that they may have a defective slave cylinder in their transmission.

What I was talking about the bleeding of whatever has already been done and only fixed the problem for a little bit, and there is something else up in there. Hopefully other people can read this and get their cars fixed under warranty before getting a huge bill!
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It sounds like the slave cylinder will have to be replaced IMO. The slave cylinder doesn't push fluid, it's what the fluid is pushed to. The slave fills up and expands, and that's what pushes on the release bearing and pressure plate to engage the clutch. Mine stuck a few times keeping the clutch engaged, and over a few hours it would disengage properly. These slave cylinders are plastic, and plastic is prone to manufacturing and temperature related problems. It should always be replaced when changing the clutch IMO.

Are you noticing that the clutch pedal is harder to push down when you can't get it to engage?
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