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Old 07-23-2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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morale of the story...... GET AN ALIGNMENT DONE!!!

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so ever since i put some Kumho 712s in 205/45/17 on my car, it had been rubbing like crazy. it didn't rub around hard corners, only on hard dips. i was trying everything to get it to go away. at first i thought my suspension was just too soft (it's the FK 35/40), but i didn't want to have to replace it because it's expensive and time-consuming. then i thought my wheel offset was wrong, but it's a +42mm offset so that couldn't be it, either. then i figured the tire was just too tall, but a 205/45/17 is the same height (roughly) as a 205/50/16, which was stock on my ride.

i did everything i could to get this thing to go away. i tried rolling the fenders (good old bat in the wheelwell routine).got rid of the rub on all but the driver rear. now i figured "great, i'm just too damn heavy and it's my fat ass that's causing it to rub." so i tried taking everything out of the back of the car (stereo) or moving it to the passenger side. still rubbed!

so finally i get into a debate with a guy over at FJ as to whether a 205/45/17 will fit with a 2" drop. he says yes, i say no. finally one of the mods gets on and suggests that i get an alignment. i thought it was a pretty dumb idea since i've already had the car aligned 3 times (once when i dropped it, another time after i put the new wheels and tires on, and a third time when it got in an accident), but i decided it couldn't hurt since it was about the next cheapest option i had to try and fix this problem.

so i get to Sears and i tell the guy why i want to get an alignment. he says "forget it, you're wasting your money." i told him that i just went from 205/40/17 to 205/45/17 about 3 months ago and that's when this problem started. he said "still shouldn't make that much of a difference." i decide to go ahead and get it done anyway, and you can probably guess the outcome....

NO MORE RUB!!!!!! WOO-HOO!!!!!

i'm so friggin stoked! turns out the camber wasn't out of spec on any of the corners, but they went ahead and set it more negative to really true it up. the REAL culprit was the toe on the driver rear (the one that was rubbing). turns out it was out of spec by all of .12 degress if i remember right, but THAT"S WHAT WAS CAUSING ALL MY HEADACHE!!!!

morale of the story: if you do ANY kind of suspension work to your car, even if it's as simple as changing tire sizes, GO GET AN ALIGNMENT DONE!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-23-2004, 02:24 PM   #2
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How did they adjust your camber? Its not adjustible, unless you have a kit.
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i thought everyone knew that suspension mods = alignment?
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they CAN adjust your REAR camber from stock, it's just that the stock hardware doesn't allow that much play. apparently there's some sort of TSB on this issue because when the car was in getting the collision work taken care of, they said they added new hardware to get the alignment in at no cost to me or the other party's insurance.

yes, solaris, that's ultimately what i was getting at. i just didn't think going from 205/40/17 to 205/45/17 would make THAT much difference on the alignment. apparently i was wrong.

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Ah, I was thinking of the fronts only.
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