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Old 07-30-2009, 07:10 AM   #21
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I am sure you ment to say your NOT trying to spend a butt load of money

I dont like t-bolt clamps , I have seen cut hoses , crushed piping from them , if the piping is clean and you use good clamps regular worm clamps will hold 35psi

Best to take your car to who can do the piping and say , Here it is and how I want it and they should be able to do the piping

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Yea thats what I meant... I DONT want to spend alot of money right of the bat.

As for the T-Bolts I was unsure what to use. Yes I am skeptical too about them digging into the silicon couplers. I mean, I use regular worm style hose clamps on air hoses that put out over 100psi. Granted the line is only an 1" but I figured that it should work just the same for charge piping in theory...

So you agree that my 6"-8" of piping is too short? I have couplers every 6"-8" is what i mean.... I personally think that it looks weird this way. Also the universal piping's hump at the end of the pipe that prevent blow off has been cut on most of my piping being used.... I have only had a few problem spots with blow off... I think it is the way the pipe and coupler are angled.
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No the hoses every 6 to 8 really isnt a big issues , looks like you said would be the only things

99.9% of the time if hoses blow off it isnt becayse of the hump/barb on the piping its from the pipe or hose not being clean , clean these (hose & pipe) with a quick drying carb cleaner , make sure there oil free and they will stop coming off even with odd angles

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How do you know it wouldnt loooooooov a diff turbo better ??????

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who said it wouldnt? the fact is, from the dynos that we have seen, the duratec does well with the gt28r, gt28rs, and gt2871r. each for whatever the customer wants. gt28r has amazing spool and can make 300+whp fine. gt28rs still has great spooll and can make another 30whp fine. and the gt2871r spools a little slower, but its still faster than a lot of turbos, and it can make 380+ easily.

the only other turbo duratec dynos ive seen are with the master power turbo which spools slower and falls off a lot in the top end.
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Maybe you should look for more dynos , do you even know anything about the turbos your talking about , NO to you its hear say , you dont have a clue what your talking about other then what fs tells you or how it works on your car and the turbo you have being the only turbo you have tried ,so how would you know if there is anything better out there and what it will do better

Quick spooling isnt the only thing you need to worry about , quick spooling is great as long as you can put it to the ground , if yours spools quick and you tire spin and another turbo does not spool quick and he hooks and out runs you what good is quick spooling ??

There is more to turbos then what you have , I have changed turbos many times with my kit allways making it better , how many times has fs , NONE does that mean its the best turbo for there kit NO just means there making money off it so why spend any more time and money to make it better

Thats the problem with most turbo kits on all cars once released they dont care as long as they make money from them and exactly your mentality about the fs kit ,there are better turbos out there then the gt28

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but your not gunna tell us what those turbo are because that could compromise your bussiness right.
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The turbos that will out do the gt28 are many and have nothing to do with my buisness , why would you say that ?

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and I would looooooooooov to put you on ignore if I could!
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No the hoses every 6 to 8 really isnt a big issues , looks like you said would be the only things

99.9% of the time if hoses blow off it isnt becayse of the hump/barb on the piping its from the pipe or hose not being clean , clean these (hose & pipe) with a quick drying carb cleaner , make sure there oil free and they will stop coming off even with odd angles

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Thanks Tom... I should have figured it would have been that simple.
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As for the T-Bolts I was unsure what to use. Yes I am skeptical too about them digging into the silicon couplers. I mean, I use regular worm style hose clamps on air hoses that put out over 100psi. Granted the line is only an 1" but I figured that it should work just the same for charge piping in theory...
I'd be worried about worm gear clamps causing damage as well. If using quality t bolts, you shouldn't have couplers blowing off. Same would go for worm gears as well at a moderate boost level, they just may cut into the hose more.

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So you agree that my 6"-8" of piping is too short? I have couplers every 6"-8" is what i mean.... I personally think that it looks weird this way. Also the universal piping's hump at the end of the pipe that prevent blow off has been cut on most of my piping being used.... I have only had a few problem spots with blow off... I think it is the way the pipe and coupler are angled.
Having a lot of couplers shouldn't be a problem. It may not flow as well, but it shouldn't be a serious issue. If the couplers go on at an angle, they will be more likely to blow off. Clean them off like Tom said and try again. If they still blow off, a little hairspray on the pipe might help. If that still doesn't work and the piping is aluminum, add the bead rolled ends yourself:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cust...bead-tool.html
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