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Old 11-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #21
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Now we're having some fun!! Just remember to check and know your state laws BEFORE you start playing with guns.

For instance; Washington State is an "open carry" state, meaning you can legally carry a holstered handgun as long as it's NOT concealed, no permit/license required. Whatever you do though, don't put your coat on and accidentally conceal that weapon, then a valid concealed weapons permit is required.

The trick is that you CAN NOT have a loaded handgun (concealed or not) in your car without a valid concealed weapons permit.

WA. State Law:

(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any
vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a
concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's
person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times
that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from
the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and
concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
(b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

So I legally can't just find a good spot to hide the gun; it has to be hidden and locked up when I'm not in the car.

And the way our courts work nowadays, some prick breaks into my car, steals my gun and uses it to rob a bank, and somehow it's my fault if the gun was only hidden and not locked up.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:12 PM   #22
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Brad....you don't live where I do. If I drive into the city, half the population is armed (illegally). You protect your own life as best you can.
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No no, for sure. Not trying to tell you what to do or not to do. You do what you have to!!
However, you can get a concealed pistol license in MO, so why not do it legally?

http://www.missouricarry.com/
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And in fact in MO you DO NOT need a permit to carry your LOADED pistol in your car!

From the website above:

Do I need a CCW to carry in my automobile? - No. Anyone age 21 or over, and otherwise legally able to own a handgun may carry that handgun concealed or not concealed in the passenger compartment of their automobile, loaded. . It only applies when the person is inside the vehicle. If you step out of the vehicle for any reason with the firearm concealed on your person and do not have a concealed carry endorsement, you may be at risk of being charged with a felony.
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Disclaimer.....I would suggest you get a carry permit for this setup. Depending on the circumstances, and where you're driving, this mod could cause some legal troubles, if uncovered. So do it at your own risk.

A loaded gun in your car is worthless, unless you can get to it quickly in an emergency. Car-jackings are a frequent occurrence in St Louis. Let him have the car you say? In St Louis, after you give up your car at gun-point, you are often shot to death anyway. This mod gives you a chance to live....if you find yourself a victim.

You need a small gun to be totally stealth.....my Baretta .25 is a good choice. It fits in my pocket, or in this Pepsi bottle. If you're left-handed, learn to shoot as a right-hander. As you exit the car, pull up the Pepsi bottle about 4-5" with your left hand. The handle of the Baretta is exposed, and you're ready to defend yourself in a flash.

I used a round foam disk covered with black felt, and glued it inside the bottle. The thing looks like an opened bottle of soda.....and the gun is completely hidden from a casual observer. I lined the bottom inside of the bottle with felt, and covered the edges with black duct tape....to keep from scratching the gun finish. This project took about 1/2 hr.....and might save my life.







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Car jackers in Memphis can't drive manual transmissions. More than once we've seen stories about a failed car jacking attempt due to a manual transmission.
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Very cool idea and BradWhite great job!
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We've had some recent changes in the law concerning carrying guns in your car......in Missouri. It is now legal to carry a gun loaded or unloaded, concealed or not, anywhere in your car, in this state (Missouri).

You do not need a carry permit.....just a legal/registered hand-gun. So this Pepsi-mod is perfectly OK.....just don't cross the state line with stupid Illinois.
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that pepsi gun idea is pretty good, but a car jacker may be pissed if he sees you going for something, but i guess if u yell i just want mah pepsi man!
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Heh...you just need to practice at it. Your hand passes right past that spot as you exit.....it doesn't take much extra movement to pull the gun out as you're standing up. It does take guts to defend yourself.

The alternative around here is to lose your car....and sometimes your life.
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