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Old 08-10-2008, 04:47 PM   #1
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Broken, sagging drivers seat - right side. +pics

Hi,

I've read a few other posts that people had this problem but never found any "solutions" yet, so I though I would at least share my experience.

My driver seat has been sagging on the right hand side for quite some time now. I wasn't sure if it was my imagination or not. Well this morning it turned out to be real as the right hand side finally gave away totally, and had no support. I shoved a big plastic bin behind the seat to support it for my drive this morning.

I wanted to pull back the upholstery to take a look, so I took some pictures to, to show you guys what happened. I have some ideas of how to fix it.

I'm not sure if the picture attachments will be in order so here is the order:

1. First, find the long plastic clip that holds the upholstery on the seat back. It's on the bottom. It helps to lean the seat forward to get to it. To unclip it, just stick in a small flathead screwdriver (with a skinny blade) to unclip the right hand portion of it, while pulling back on the outer plastic portion. If you get it started, it will peel off without damage. (the clip will "unzip" in a sort of way)

You can see firstly that the right hand side of the seat gets all of its support from a tube that is attached to the drivers side. This tube DOES NOT attach to the seat reclining mechanism, and is a flaw in the design because of that. Instead it just attaches to the drivers side of the frame, which does.

This means all the stress from the right hand side of the seat will be put mainly upon the weld joint on the left hand side. Even more so than just torsional stress, because if the seat gets pushed back it could also add some tension stress too.

In this case you can see where the metal frame cracked. No doubt this was the start of my problems. Now it is to the point where the tube itself is shearing.


My thoughts (barring of course getting another seat):

1. Keep the plastic bin in the back seat pushing on my seat for me :) lol. White trash repair.

2. Drill holes thru the tube and attach stabilizers to the left side of the frame, using some nice thick metal and fasteners. Before you scoff at me, read my thread of how I repaired my reclining mechanism handles using those types of techniques.

3. Another possible way is to attach a cross member from the right side frame backing to the left side frame backing. Now, attach connections from the tube to this cross member. The cross member would help then in preventing tensional stress too, and the torsional stress would pull against the cross member, so I think this would support very well. (So what I mean is a flat piece of metal attached all the way across the back of the seat frame, to join the left and right together. And then drill holes and attach metal brackets from the tube to this crossmember).

Anyway, thought I would share some pics. If anyone has other ideas, other than getting another seat, I'm willing to discuss. I'm too poor right now for another seat yet.

-niko


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Old 08-10-2008, 04:55 PM   #2
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Yup exact same thing happened to me. Just crappy seats in general. Mine was caused by my brother pulling himself outta the back of the car by holding onto the back of the seat... Bent it totally. Replaced both the front seats with Corbeau A4's and am lovin it.
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:14 PM   #3
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my focus part out thread will go up later today, I have all my seats for sale in it. Everything will be going out cheap as shit, mostly you'll pay for the shipping. My front seats have had seat covers on them since day one, they're flawless. I'll be letting em' go for like $40-50 per seat or discount for the pair.


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Old 08-13-2008, 07:44 AM   #4
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Well here's my repair so far. It really helped a lot, the right side doesn't lean back as much as it has the whole last year anymore.

It still moves some, really it needs to be pushed as far forward as possible and the tube welded back together or something.

Now I just need to find a welder to do it for me :)

Actually I was thinking if I "rough" up the metal enough (for example, put grooves in the tubing with a dremel tool) I could probably JB StiK it, it's supposed to have 6000psi. The problem here is that the right hand side of the seat acts like a big lever, focusing all force down to this left hand side so I don't know if that would be enough.

But with this patch helping absorb the force, all I need is enough strength to absorb the remaining torsion.


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Old 10-05-2008, 09:59 AM   #5
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Nice work on the seat repair. It's been awhile since you posted this. I'd be interested to know how you made out. Seems like taking the seat out having the cracks welded and then appying your brace to that same area would be the ideal fix.
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