AWD Zetec/SVT Focus INFO thread

[hurtinfocus]

From Kugel:

V81030 - ZX3 8.8 FORD REAR END INSTALLATION KIT – INCLUDES: UPPER & LOWER 4 BARS WITH BOLT ON FRAME BRACKETS, BOLT IN UPPER COILOVER SHOCK CROSSMEMBER AND LOWER SHOCK BRACKETS, ALL HARDWARE INCLUDED, (DOES NOT INCLUDE REAR AXLE)




Now, I have found that alot of guys are using the 99+ cobra rear IRS and a little work with a hammer,grinder, and drill.....and it fits.....

http://www.mouthbreather.net/IRSSWAP.HTML

the only thing is that its probably useless because the kugel kit is modified bracketry and such to hold just the axle, not the entire setup from a fox mustang.

but the good news is that a cobra rear IRS can probably be modded just as easily as Kugel made the 8.8 bolt-in kit.

the escape rear IRS is still probably less work though.



EDIT: this website in the UK lists a cobra IRS option, and says that they partner with Kugel.....

http://www.gladcliff.com/svtfocus.html



Edit2: here is what Kugel says has to be done to the front subframe for anything involving rear wheel drive/awd

"The original suspension crossmember had to be modified by cutting it in half, removing the center portion and installing a rectangular tube between the two halves."


Edit3(LOL): i cant seem to email Kugel because its a direct link to microsoft outlook......if someone can email them and ask if they offer an IRS for the focus v8 conversion that would be AWESOME

[hurtinfocus]

Pics of a jaguar transmission:






SO:


the transmission and the front transfer case are INDEED separate.....now.....to find a cougar or countour v6 trans for comparison to see if you could mount the transfer case to a cougar/contour trans (easier to find and way cheaper)


EDIT: contour trans:





they are different.........guess you do need the trans....DAMNIT!

[hurtinfocus]

here is a schematic of the passenger side axonometric view of the transfer case......



it would be nice to know if the bellhousings were swapable, maybe then you could use a bellhousing from the jag mounted to a cougar/contour trans and still be able to do it.

[SkaAddict]

Is it just me...or did that Jag transmission have a flexplate/torque converter in the bellhousing (automatic)?

[hurtinfocus]

^ it did, it was auto.....but they operate the same components so the parts of it that mount the transfer case and axles should be the same


here are some more schematics of the jag manual tranny i got from a friendly source:

this one is of the transfer case

[03OrangeSVT]

DAMNIT!!!

After see the transfer case you've got me thinking..... I need to get my hands on a transfer case.

I'm wondering if I can adapt the transfer case to my Getrag.... that sure would make shit simple.

It may not be that hard... custom bracket, short axle to go from Getrag to transfer case then a custom axle from case to passengers wheel.

[Bvtt_Whiper]

I still think the mazdapseed 6 drivetrain is the best.

[hurtinfocus]

Originally Posted by 03OrangeSVT

DAMNIT!!!

After see the transfer case you've got me thinking..... I need to get my hands on a transfer case.

I'm wondering if I can adapt the transfer case to my Getrag.... that sure would make shit simple.

It may not be that hard... custom bracket, short axle to go from Getrag to transfer case then a custom axle from case to passengers wheel.

looks like we have linked minds man lol. i was thinking the EXACT same thing....not even a short axle for the t-case.....i was thinking more of an adapter like a spacer-spline thing. I cant think of a way to describe it. basically like a sleeve to simulate the stock axle, but comes out and splines into the T-case. Custom T-case mounts onto the tranny by threading those bosses already in the casting.....cut the center out of the stock crossmember and box it out Kugel style, 99+ cobra rear IRS or Escape rear IRS or kugel 8.8 mount kit. DONE!

if your interested i have a solid source on dealer priced parts i can probably have you a t-case by the end of the week.

i found a 5spd trans WITH t-case for $1100

[hurtinfocus]

Originally Posted by Bvtt_Whiper

I still think the mazdapseed 6 drivetrain is the best.

The MS6 drivetrain has no relation to a zetec based car. the bellhousings will not work, and the MS6 is electronically controlled unless you manually weld/lock the diffs somehow.

[Bvtt_Whiper]

Originally Posted by hurtinfocus

The MS6 drivetrain has no relation to a zetec based car. the bellhousings will not work, and the MS6 is electronically controlled unless you manually weld/lock the diffs somehow.

Its called buying a duratec.

The electronics cant be that complicated. I am sure it reads engine speed.. when it comes to the engine. Other than that I think it relies on yaw sensors and sensors in the trans for wheelspin.

I think it may not be the easiest route...since you would need to do an engine swap. But I think it will still be the best performing set up of the bunch... in turns anyway.