focus vs. contour

[InFocus66]

Originally Posted by number1187svt

The SVT is the best car you can buy for $10,000. What you want to look for in a used one is an 04' Euro edition SVT with low miles.

I have that exact car and I will be dead before I sell it for 10K.

[SkaAddict]

Originally Posted by Stuka

the duratec is a stronger design.

I know you Duratec guys think your engines are the pinnacle of automotive engineering, but this is just sheer ignorance. Care explaining how a Duratec with sintered rods is a "stronger design" than the SVT Zetec that features forged rods and oil squirters? I mean, hell, the stock Zetec has stronger rods than either Duratec.

Duratecs do have some positive attributes, but come on...when someone pushes a stock 2.3 past 350 WHP and keeps it there for a long time without having to do a rebuild I'll believe that the Duratec is a stronger engine.

SVT Zetec > Duratec if boost is in your plans...period.

[turbovation]

good point there ska..they really did beef up the SVT motor for strength...it's bulletproof. Love this car!

[EggYolkBill]

I don't know how much the forged internals are going to matter unless you are looking for 300+ whp? Anyone care to address that? It seems to me if you're planning on that much power, building the engine, tranny and drivetrain for it would be mandatory anyway. If you just want to buy a car and put some standard FI then tell me where either way you're going to gain something over the other in reliability. I may be way off on this and that's why I'm mentioning it.

[WitchCitySVT]

Even though I'm the one who got this off topic, we should start a new thread to discuss it and let this guy have his topic back.

As far as SVTF verses SVTC here are the numbers:
SVTC
0-60 mph : 7.9 sec.
0-1/4 mile : 15.7 seconds @ 88 mph
Top Speed 143 mph

SVTF
0-60 mph : 7.5 sec.
0-¼ mile : 15.9 sec @ 90.2 mph
Top speed : 135 mph

[SpeedOften]

Originally Posted by EggYolkBill

I like the SVT but they do seem to have more problems than the regular Foci. Also, I don't see how a higher compression motor is going to be better for boost. If you plan on doing some serious upgrading I would probably start with an 03-04 ZX3 with the 2.3 Duratec and a mtx. I hear there is a conversion to the SVT trans available or it's possible. There are many ways to look at this but I would say if you want to keep it stock SVT, mod it 2.3 MTX.

The duratecs won't bolt up to the Getrag tranny... only the zetec's will...

[EggYolkBill]

Good job on finding those performance numbers. This is somewhat on-topic since he compared the regular Foci vs SVT Foci in his original post.

[WitchCitySVT]

Originally Posted by EggYolkBill

Good job on finding those performance numbers. This is somewhat on-topic since he compared the regular Foci vs SVT Foci in his original post.

read it again.

Originally Posted by 98tredsvt

Has anyone driven the svt focus and the svt contour?

[EggYolkBill]

Originally Posted by witchcitySVT

read it again.

Originally Posted by 98tredsvt

I What should i look for in a used focus, and if I'm going to be modifying one does it matter if I get an SVT focus or a regular focus?

That seems pretty clear to me.

[SpeedOften]

Originally Posted by EggYolkBill

I don't know how much the forged internals are going to matter unless you are looking for 300+ whp? Anyone care to address that? It seems to me if you're planning on that much power, building the engine, tranny and drivetrain for it would be mandatory anyway. If you just want to buy a car and put some standard FI then tell me where either way you're going to gain something over the other in reliability. I may be way off on this and that's why I'm mentioning it.

300whp is easily attainable in the SVT by bolting on a procharger and running higher boost. I forget the screenname (Army something?) but he had a procharged SVT at 290whp and 215wtq at 11.5 psi.

It's not attainable with a stock internal'd duratec. I think the limit is around 250whp?

If someone is going to boost a car, it is a common scenario to eventually up the boost... Which is where the forged rods make the difference. The piston ringlets are the weakest point in the SVTF.

Also, without saying location or giving any other information, the top speed of the SVTF is incorrect. It is not limited to 135 in stock trim.