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Old 02-15-2009, 05:20 PM   #4941
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If you look back to Lexus, and to what they are now. Hyundai is doing the same thing lexus did back then. Now what do you think when you think Lexus???? That's right. But just as you said, they gotta overcome that. But so far it looks like they can do it.
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true, but toyota went so far as to making another brand. now i'll admit, i don't really know the details, haven't ever had a reason to look back on it, lol, but i realize toyota hasn't always been as highly thought of as they are today, they started at the bottom as well, so maybe they started going in the same direction as hyundai is now, but i read it not too long back, as the genesis was first being released, that they don't have any intention of making another brand. perhaps it would help in the next 2-5 years, assuming the genesis does prove to be pretty successful, if they branched out with more of a luxury brand. build up a better rep for hyundai over the next few years, and then create something higher. because, after all, the genesis is still *just* a hyundai. it's kind of like vw's attempt at the phaeton. besides the issues with the car itself, it was STILL a vw, and why would people with that kind of money want a vw?

heck, i like the styling of the genesis, minus the grille on the sedan. i think the coupe is a pretty good looking thing. and they are getting noticed. but it's definitely an uphill climb that they've got ahead of them.
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #4943
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True story.

The time it takes to get the coupe out, the SHO will be out with its 365hp/350lb ft EcoBoost TTV6 and AWD. American car>Asian car.
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^^I have to disagree with the American<Asian thing.. Id much rather have a Japanese car over an America. SHO<STI plus the STI is cheaper

BTW,, GM is probably going bankrupt. Its about time. After they stole our money.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:04 PM   #4945
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The STI and the SHO aren't even in the same category. :| The Legacy may be closer but not the STi. GM may be goin down, but Ford never needed the money.

Why would you want to support another country when yours is in trouble? That's like seeing a homeless guy on the street and giving the money to the church he is leaned up against.
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SHO has around 350 Horses and the Legacy has 260ish

And that Last statement is inaccurate. My Dads new honda is much more american then our focus'. 60% of the parts are from America and it was assembled here here. That means Honda Has provided more jobs here with the accord then Ford has with the Focus.

Ive got an article on the Wall Street Journal about this that I will go search for and post
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:26 PM   #4948
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Vehical class isn't set by HP.

the STi is a sport compact or sport small sedan. SHO is a sport luxury sedan. I would class it with the Likes of the BMW 5 Series or Buick Luciern(sp)

Kia makes a lot of jobs here too. Whereas GM and Ford use mexico and canada to build cars. I know that forigne car companies build cars here, and make jobs. I would still stand by the Big Three for the fact that they are founded by americans and represent us all.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123265601944607285.html

Here it is.

I so mad about all the bailouts. If someone in a capitalistic society does something that becomes negative to business, it should never be the governments job to give that company money to get it back on its feet. That is socialism not capitalism. In a capitalistic society, if a company fails to make a profit due to a bad business model, another company will eventually take its place. This has happened many times. America also has it in there heads that the big three run most of America. This is incorrect. America is run by small business not corporations like GM. This is one of many reasons why giving money to these guys was a big mistake and didn't work. I sure do hope Ford comes out of this with Flying colors. I really would like to own an RS focus.

The reason why I am ranting is because this is something that we just when over in my Business markets and economics class. Also something I have be studying.
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