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Old 03-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #61
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Sry to bring up an old thread. .

I found this thread while researching massive's claims on their UDPs. I know there's not much HP to get from UDPs but that's not what I'm after. I'm more interested in making a faster revving engine.
2 words Aluminum Flywheel
that will let you rev faster.

IMO i like the udp, every one says you get 1-3 hp to the wheels depending on what you get, but what i like is that you get the 1-3 hp over the entire power band. thats what is so nice about it but i do wish that a company would make nicer UDP's like mentioned earlier the water filled udps that, seems real interesting
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:39 PM   #62
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those are a hardcore racing piece. and yeah a flywheels is on the lsit, (when the supercharger blows up the clutch,lol.
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2 words Aluminum Flywheel
that will let you rev faster.
I should rephrase that. Rev faster without spending a butt load to do it.

If you get a flywheel then you might as well do the clutch, plus install.. .

You're looking at over a grand easy.

A flywheel & clutch is on the list but prolly not til late summer. I saw the pulley as a cheaper alternative.
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^ which is why itll be done when i blow up the clutch,lol
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I've got over 100K on my FC 2pc UDP. The crank is practically indestructable. I would hesitate maybe with major boost.
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i said the flywheel. i cant do a udp since i'll have a stuporcharger. which is why i asked why no one has a stock sized aluminum pulley...
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Had a close look at at Saturn 1.9 crank pulley today. Just a solid piece of steel, no rubber. Sooooo,,, some engines have a harmonic balancer and some don't. WHY? I'm guessing it's personal opinions of engineers.
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Doesn't necessarily mean that the engine hasn't some form of vibration control, such as balance shaft(s.) Let me put it like this; if Ford's engineers didn't deem it necessary for engine longevity, do you really think they would spend the extra however much it costs to put the vibration-dampening material into the idler pulley? When an automaker builds a large-scale production car in the range of millions of units they aren't going to put things in that cost extra if they are not necessary - because if they don't they save money.
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I should rephrase that. Rev faster without spending a butt load to do it.

If you get a flywheel then you might as well do the clutch, plus install.. .

You're looking at over a grand easy.

A flywheel & clutch is on the list but prolly not til late summer. I saw the pulley as a cheaper alternative.
replacing a clutch is not that big of a deal as long as you have pneumatic tools, and instead of paying over a grand you'll pay around 850ish doing it your self. and the cheapest way to rev faster is adjustable cam gears and udp both light weight, im not sure if the cam gears do anything for reving but it would make sense cause they are aluminum, but if you gonna do it, do it right and go with the flywheel
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Doesn't necessarily mean that the engine hasn't some form of vibration control, such as balance shaft(s.) Let me put it like this; if Ford's engineers didn't deem it necessary for engine longevity, do you really think they would spend the extra however much it costs to put the vibration-dampening material into the idler pulley? When an automaker builds a large-scale production car in the range of millions of units they aren't going to put things in that cost extra if they are not necessary - because if they don't they save money.
Uhh, balance shafts aren't used for "vibration control." So tell me, why do some engines have harmonic balancers and others don't? I have little one cyl. R.C. airplane engines and they don't use it...
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