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View Poll Results: are these guys just bad drivers?
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:15 PM   #21
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For the most part the local track Guru's around my area believe the S2000 to be too tail happy and not have enough downforce to be a competent autocross car, although they could are all biased towards the mini, 350Z and the Miata... so who knows.. The last s2k that came out spun on every run... but that's probably just the driver.. so good on you for beating bad drivers in better cars by being a better driver in a poorer car!

The z4 could have been an auto? BMW's are notorious for incredible gearing, handling and flat torque curves - even with the 2.5 I-6... well that all depends on what year too...
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:20 PM   #22
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I was actually checking the national solo II results from the past couple years earlier today. The S2000 features very prominently in the top 5 A-Stock cars, pretty consistently. Properly prepped, it looks like it's one of THE cars in the class.

That said, autocross nationals are not necessarily indicative of all aspects of a car's track potential. I would consider it a pretty good barometer though...
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:42 PM   #23
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Um...i never said anything about where i raced an s2k....all i said is i've run with one way into the triple digits and hung with him....get the panties out of a wad.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:44 AM   #24
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well, id say driver difference. If you think about it the S2000 isnt a lot faster in a line. The SVT handles almost as good. Hell, he could have had bad tires and you would have been fair. The SVT is an exceptional car and the S2000 is overrated. Keep that in mind. It should be faster than you, but not by an insane amount.
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For the most part the local track Guru's around my area believe the S2000 to be too tail happy and not have enough downforce to be a competent autocross car,
Downforce? in AutoX where you get to maybe 60 mph for a few seconds? Lol.
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the S2000 is overrated. Keep that in mind. It should be faster than you, but not by an insane amount.
have you ever driven one?
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:43 PM   #26
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I voted bad drivers. If I paid 30grand+, and still paying on it, I would definitely baby my ride on a track. When I had my car on a track with a corvette I came up on it in the curves a few times. I automaticly chalked it up to the driver being cautious.
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Old 06-21-2007, 04:27 PM   #27
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S2000's destroy me at auto-x. I know I'm not an SVT but I've got the suspension and am in steady competition with a G35 coupe right now. There's two local drivers that beat the balls off my times all the time. Last time I was really hot on the track but unfortunately, they were not racing that day, so I don't have a current comparison.
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never autoX or tracked with a s2k but with the bmw i have and he beat me by 10 seconds(both fastest times) i dnt have svt either but had same suspension, also ax but i pusehd the car to the max lol
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:33 PM   #29
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I've driven an S2000 and I managed to kick the tail end out. If you don't have brand spanking new tires with some real stickiness it is NOT hard to lose control in an S2000. But if you are a semi-professional driver, the S2000 is probably one of the best cars in the world on a track...I mean every magazine out there reads 'grip grip grip grip grip' when concerning the S2K...so it's all about the driver. The SVT is a great car for the track, but it's a lot more forgiving which means you can drive the hell out of it on the track and you'll probably come out unscathed. I dunno much about Z4s except that they are heavy and probably understeer at least a little bit. But if you pit two professional drivers against eachother, one in an SVT and one in an S2000, there is no doubt the S2000 would be victorious.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:40 PM   #30
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Driver. With the right driver, the S2000 is the faster car. That said, one of the primary blessings of the SVTF is how easy it is to drive fast and at the limit. It takes more skill and committment to get the most out of the S2000, so while it's limits are higher, it's harder to reach them.
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