Remote Start Install in 2008 SE - A few questions - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum > Ford Focus Tech Discussions > Car Audio, SYNC, MyFord Touch & Electronics

Car Audio, SYNC, MyFord Touch & Electronics The Forum for the Ford Focus audiophiles. The place to chat about automobile sound systems, security systems, or show off your I.C.E.!
Sponsored By: GT Sound Control


Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-28-2012, 07:01 PM   #1
cj773
Focus Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Fan#: 107815
Location: Chicago, IL
What I Drive: 2008 Black SE

Posts: 1
FF Reputation: 1 cj773 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Remote Start Install in 2008 SE - A few questions

Hey I'm Chris it's my first time posting here and would appreciate it if any of you can spare a few minutes to answer some of my questions regarding a remote starter installation on a 2008 SE.

I'm going to be installing an Avital (4103) one way remote start with a D2D compatible bypass (XpressKit PKALL).


First off, I understand that in DC circuits polarity does matter. In the installation manual it has for example:

Primary Harness (H1)
H1/1 Light Green/Black (-) Factory Alarm Disarm

It seems like I only need to reverse the polarity with a relay if I want to use the door locks/trunk which I do not care about. I simply want the remote start button to work on the remote. I do have a color chart from another website:

Wire/Function Colour Location/Description Polarity
PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT YES TRANSPONDER SEE NOTES
12 VOLTS Blue/red Ignition switch harness +
IGNITION Brown/yellow Ignition switch harness +
ACCESSORY Violet/green Ignition switch harness +
STARTER Blue/white Ignition switch harness +
KEY SENSE Blue/gray Ignition switch harness +
TACH SIGNAL Yellow/orange At PCM near battery AC
LOCK Yellow/gray In harness in driver kick panel -
May also be Light Blue/Light Green (-) in driver's kick panel.
UNLOCK Violet/brown In harness in driver kick panel -
May also be Yellow/Violet (-) in driver's kick panel.
DISARM Violet/brown In harness in driver kick panel -
DRIVER LOCK MOTOR Blue/green In harness in driver kick panel REV POL
DRIVER UNLOCK MOTOR Gray/brown In harness in driver kick panel REV POL
DOMELIGHT / ALL DOORS Gray/violet In harness in driver kick panel +
HOODPIN Blue/orange At smart junction box under driver dash -
TRUNK PIN Yellow/green In harness in driver kick panel -
TRUNK RELEASE Light Blue Driver's kick panel +
Can use OEM remote to test.
BRAKE SWITCH Violet/white At switch above brake pedal +
PARKING LIGHTS Violet/white At harness in driver's kick panel +
HORN Blue/white Steering column harness -


The polarity is noted for each wire. There are five harnesses, Primary (H1), 4-pin Satellite (Do I even need this hooked up?), Heavy Gauge Relay, Door Lock Harness (3-pin), Remote Start Harness (H2).

This is how I would hook it up as of now, can anyone go through this and let me know what I do not even use. As of now I am more so confused by the Input/Output

Primary Harness (H1) Wiring Diagram:
H1/1 Light Green/Black ( - Factory Alarm Disarm) I would connect to Violet/Brown in the kick panel
H1/2 Green/White (- Factory Rearm) I dont see a rearm wire in the chart, the car does not have a factory alarm. The remote simply locks the door and beeps the horn. Should I even use H1/1-3?
H1/3 Yellow (+ Ignition Out [To alarm]) ??
H1/4 White/Blue (- Activation Input) ???
H1/5 Orange (- Ground when locked) ???
H1/6 Brown (- Horn Output) Blue/White in Steering Column Harness
H1/7 Red/White (- Trunk Release Output) Do not need this, leave not connected to anything?
H1/8 Black (Ground) To a ground on the car, bolt on metal frame
H1/9 White (+/- Light flash) ??? Is this so the running lights come on when the car is running??

4-Pin Satellite Harness Diagram: What do I use this for?
1 Blue (- Status Output) ??
2 Orange (- Accessory Output) Violet/Green Ignition Switch Harness but has + Polarity???
3 Purple (- Starter Output) Blue/White ignition switch harness but has + polarity??
4 Pink (- Ignition Output) Brown/Yellow ignition switch harness but has + polarity??

Heavy Gauge Relay Wiring Diagram:

1 Pink (+ Output to ignition circuit) Brown/Yellow in ignition harness
2 Purple (+ Output to starter circuit) Blue/White in Ignition Harness
3 Orange (+ Output to accessory circuit) Violet/Green Ignition Harness
4 Red (+ 30A high current 12 input) Blue/Red Ignition Switch - Hook up the same as 6??
5 Pink/White (+ Programmable Output for accessory or igntion) ???
6 Red (+ 30A High Current 12V Input) Blue/Red Ignition Switch

Door Lock harness: I do not care if the door locks work or not on the remote, So I just do not use this harness?
1 Blue (- Unlock output)
2 Not used
3 Green (- Lock output)

Remote Start Harness H2 Wiring Diagram:
H2/1 Black/White (- Neutral Safety Switch Input) Would I ground both of these wires to bypass?
H2/2 Violet/White (Tachometer Input Wire) Yellow/Orange at PCM Near battery --- I read somewhere that with the bypass I do not need to use a tach wire because it checks the voltage 1000x a second or something??
H2/3 brown (+ Brake Switch Shutdown Wire) Violet/White at brake switch
H2/4 Gray (- Hood Pinswitch Shutdown Wire) I do not want to use, do I ground this wire?
H2/5 Blue/White (- 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output) Dont need rear defogger, do not hook up?







On the bypass there are only two harnesses as listed on the first page of the manual:

D2D (4pin) I assume this is hooked up to the D2D port on the remote start, but how exactly does this save any time, what does it do?

Purple/White -> Data 1
Yellow/Black -> Data 2
Blue/White -> (- While Running Status) It looks like it points to the remote?? What is this?
Green -> Key Sense
Pink -> Ignition
Black -> Ground

For this harness under the connection instructions for the Ford Focus it has a picture of the ignition barrel with a back view of a 4pin connector
[4 3 2 1]
Pin #1 Ignition +12v (N.C.)
Pin #2 Ground (N.C.)
Pin #3 TX (Data)
Pin #4 RX (Data)

Is this what is installed on the ignition switch and what I splice into?

It now shows the harness as:

Purple/White -> Rx (Data In) Hook up to RX wire going to Pin #4
Yellow/Black -> Tx (Data Out) Hook up to TX wire going to Pin #3
Blue/White -> (- While running [status]) Looks like it goes to the remote???
Green -> .......N.c. NC = No connection? Dont Hook this up?
Pink -> Ignition Hook up to Ignition wire connected to Pin #1?
Black -> .......N.c. Don't hook up?




Any ideas on the simplest way to install this with only the remote start function? I seem to be most confused by the Input/Outputs, how to bypass what I do not need to work. I understand not to hook up any harnesses (D2D and Main) to the Bypass until you have the remote start installed and are holding the program key on the bypass as per instructions. Any help would be appreciated so much


cj773 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-29-2012, 11:07 AM   #2
whynotthinkwhynot
Captain TMI
 
whynotthinkwhynot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Fan#: 18416
Location: the armpit of TN, Memphis, TN
What I Drive: 05 ZXW; 02 Windstar; 13 C-Max SEL

Posts: 20,223
Points 27,399, Level 98
Points: 27,399, Level: 98 Points: 27,399, Level: 98 Points: 27,399, Level: 98
Level Up 5% Completed
Level up: 5% Level up: 5% Level up: 5%
Forum Activity 19%
Activity: 19% Activity: 19% Activity: 19%
FF Reputation: 270 whynotthinkwhynot Outstanding Standing Member whynotthinkwhynot Outstanding Standing Member whynotthinkwhynot Outstanding Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (1)
Ford Focus General Technical chat is for technical discussions relating to general maintenance, electrical issues, engine trouble, and recalls. Moved to Car Audio and Electronics, that should help you find a better answer.
__________________
Be eclectic.
---The Complete How-To Archive--

Moderating everything now, let me know if I can help.

Quote:
Originally Posted by the user formerly known as ZX3_Chick View Post
You're special aren't you.
whynotthinkwhynot is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Cadillac ATS-V, Ford Fusion and Acura TLX. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.