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Old 04-27-2007, 04:14 PM   #1
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Got my first one coming up, it's not a comp or anything, just a test and tune on a dirt track, i've read through the stickies and stuff but they mostly cover autox and i think things might be a little different on the dirt.

So any tips you guys want to give me would be appreciated, i'd like to not make a fool out of myself my first time, hopefully i'll be able to stay in control lol.


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just a stock ZX3, Just doing it for fun, ain't out to break any records.

Got some pretty good looking tires on the front wheels, look like they'll get decent traction in the dirt, I've messed around in some empty fields trying to get a feel for the car off road but any advice would be appreciated.

Would like to know what pressure to run my tires at and stuff.
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with just a stock Focus i wouldnt recommend anything fancy. just race around a bit to get the feel for it but for now dont do anything your not sure you can handle cuz you dont want to roll your car w/out proper rally gear (i.e. roll cage)....sliding around the corners is fun though give that a shot just be careful dude.
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The course is pretty tame as far as dirt tracks are concerned so i'm not worried about rolling or anything, i would like some braking. turning, throttle tips if you'd be so kind, Should any Ebrake be used to start a slide? I am not used to FWD, especially not in the dirt.
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I wanna rally! But my car is pure street set up. 4 inches off the ground + 18 in. wheels. No go.


oh, and I have no tips. God, I'm useless.
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The course is pretty tame as far as dirt tracks are concerned so i'm not worried about rolling or anything, i would like some braking. turning, throttle tips if you'd be so kind, Should any Ebrake be used to start a slide? I am not used to FWD, especially not in the dirt.
Don't worry about rolling your car. If you want to have the most fun, keep all worries aside.

E-brake is not required. A lot of guys I run with use the ebrake, but in my opinion it is just one more distraction. If you want the back end of the car to rotate, just charge the corner, and give the brake pedal a hard stab. It'll start to bring the back end around. Then just let the back of the car do it's thing, and step on the gas. That'll help you pull out of it. This is something that you will just feel as it begins to happen. After your jab at the brakes (assuming you have enough momentum) you'll feel the back end start to get light. That's when you want to steer into the corner, then treat it like a rear wheel drive, give it a little (note little) countersteer along with more throttle. Rear wheel drive experience will be more beneficial on this type of driving than you would expect.

If this is all for fun, give it a few shots. If you get the hang of it, try some different techniques, left foot braking, ebrakes, etc. But don't get too crazy on your first time out.

Stock tires, try to bump up the air pressures to about 38-40 lbs depending on the surface. Lower than that will get you better traction, but you'll risk blowing a bead, or two or three.

Throttle modulation is your friend. If you're spinning the tires, you're not going anywhere. Let up off the gas a few hairs until you start to gain forward motion again. Then give it some more.

If the course starts to develop ruts, and you are stuck having to drive in them, let the steering wheel guide you through the corner. Don't try to steer out of them unless there is an obvious different line you can take. If you are absolutely forced to take the rutted line, just follow it. Keep very soft hands on the steering wheel and let the car pull itself through. Fighting the ruts is where you risk tipping, or blowing a bead the most.

I try to keep a full tank of gas. Bring at least two spares with you (full size is better), bring some basic hand tools and a jack. Don't leave them in the car when you are driving the course. haha

Bring clothes you don't mind getting dirty. Bring some water, sunscreen, and a hat. Ask lots of questions, ask for ride alongs, and have a good freaking time.
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The course is pretty tame as far as dirt tracks are concerned so i'm not worried about rolling or anything, i would like some braking. turning, throttle tips if you'd be so kind, Should any Ebrake be used to start a slide? I am not used to FWD, especially not in the dirt.
It's kinda like autocross. At your first event leave your ego at home and just go to have fun. Try to be as smooth as you can don't worry if you don't beat anyone. If you decide that this is the most fun you've had with your clothes on, then you can start working on things that will make you faster like left foot braking.

So, how did you do?
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Don't worry about rolling your car. If you want to have the most fun, keep all worries aside.

E-brake is not required. A lot of guys I run with use the ebrake, but in my opinion it is just one more distraction. If you want the back end of the car to rotate, just charge the corner, and give the brake pedal a hard stab. It'll start to bring the back end around. Then just let the back of the car do it's thing, and step on the gas. That'll help you pull out of it. This is something that you will just feel as it begins to happen. After your jab at the brakes (assuming you have enough momentum) you'll feel the back end start to get light. That's when you want to steer into the corner, then treat it like a rear wheel drive, give it a little (note little) countersteer along with more throttle. Rear wheel drive experience will be more beneficial on this type of driving than you would expect.

If this is all for fun, give it a few shots. If you get the hang of it, try some different techniques, left foot braking, ebrakes, etc. But don't get too crazy on your first time out.

Stock tires, try to bump up the air pressures to about 38-40 lbs depending on the surface. Lower than that will get you better traction, but you'll risk blowing a bead, or two or three.

Throttle modulation is your friend. If you're spinning the tires, you're not going anywhere. Let up off the gas a few hairs until you start to gain forward motion again. Then give it some more.

If the course starts to develop ruts, and you are stuck having to drive in them, let the steering wheel guide you through the corner. Don't try to steer out of them unless there is an obvious different line you can take. If you are absolutely forced to take the rutted line, just follow it. Keep very soft hands on the steering wheel and let the car pull itself through. Fighting the ruts is where you risk tipping, or blowing a bead the most.

I try to keep a full tank of gas. Bring at least two spares with you (full size is better), bring some basic hand tools and a jack. Don't leave them in the car when you are driving the course. haha

Bring clothes you don't mind getting dirty. Bring some water, sunscreen, and a hat. Ask lots of questions, ask for ride alongs, and have a good freaking time.
well said. you dont really need the ebrake at all...as your not really drifting as much as you are sliding. a quick stab of the brakes works just fine. its also kinda fun to punch it as you come around the corner, your tires start to spin out as you slide and then you shoot off
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