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Old 10-13-2014, 03:35 PM   #1
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Ecoboost vs Duratec?

How similar are the Ecoboost 2.0 that's in the ST and the 2.0 Duratec in the '09 focus?

I have a theory, but I'm not sure how plausible it is. I'd like to snag the turbo and the plumping involded from a crashed ST and turbo my 08 focus. Are the Ecoboost and Duractec engines similar enough to be able to do this without making it not worth it?

If you spend too much turbo'ing a 09 focus, you might as well trade your car in for a MS3 or a newer ST, so cost would obviously be the biggest factor in this.


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Old 10-13-2014, 04:08 PM   #2
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They share dimensions but the ecoboost uses direct injection and much stronger internals among other things. Better off picking up a complete turbo kit for the duratec.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:57 PM   #3
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They share dimensions but the ecoboost uses direct injection and much stronger internals among other things. Better off picking up a complete turbo kit for the duratec.
But a complete duratec turbo kit is about $4k plus labor. At that cost, it'd be cheaper and easier to trade in my car like I previously mentioned.

So, since they have the same dimensions and assuming that the engines are oriented the same, then shouldn't the turbo manifold, plumping, intercooler piping, etc bolt right up?


ETA: I've been searching around and it looks to me that the ST motor and the Duratec in my 09 are oriented the exact same.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:29 PM   #4
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The st engine has the manifold for the exhaust cast into the head it is not removable. I know that is different
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The st engine has the manifold for the exhaust cast into the head it is not removable. I know that is different
Well that poses a little bit of a conundrum.
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Def will throw off all the piping quite a bit
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Def will throw off all the piping quite a bit
Well since the turbo manifold was the most important part to me, I guess my theory is busted.
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Moved to the Forced induction section.

'fraid little would be useable to turbo the '09 using ST parts, maybe someone knows if the turbo itself would bolt up to avail. turbo manifolds.
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Moved to the Forced induction section.

'fraid little would be useable to turbo the '09 using ST parts, maybe someone knows if the turbo itself would bolt up to avail. turbo manifolds.
Better off getting a gt28 turbo to start with.
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Old 10-13-2014, 10:25 PM   #10
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Better off getting a gt28 turbo to start with.
That was my plan. Use the oil and water lines, intercooler piping, turbo downpipe, manifold, etc and just buy a garrett turbo. But if the manifold is cast into the heads, then my idea is shot to hell since the only turbo manifold I can find for my style focus is $1k. I'd be willing to spend $4-500 or so on one, but $1k puts the manifold and turbo alone at $3000.
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