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Old 01-01-2007, 10:28 AM   #1
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Life span of HID headlights?

Have two questions;

1. Does anyone know how long our HID headlights will last?

2. What would it cost to fix them when they burn out?

One other thing, I had to get one of my headlights replaced under warranty because there was some moister inside it. Thank God it was under warranty. It was like $450-$500 to replace it! I was looking on the Ford Racing web site and found them for sale there. Does anyone know why Ford says “For off road use only”? They only sold a few thousand SVT’s with them and aren’t they on the road???

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Old 01-01-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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Bulbs are about $70 a pair.
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They're fairly cheap. I would recommend buying some Phillips HID bulbs if you have to. 80 bucks a pair, and you can get them in a slightly higher K. I think our stock bulbs are around 4500K (kelvin). They shine a nice shade of white with some hughs of purple. The higher you go, the more blue the lights will become...I think BMWs are around 5500...so they have a lot of blue and purple in them. The higher the kelvin, though, the lower the overall output. 5000k is probably my first choice....from Phillips. Check amazon.com when you need a new pair.
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They say for off-road use only because they are so bright. Laws on the road prohibit lights from being exorbitantly bright.
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They say for off road use because DOT made them illegal for road use. If your car does not have HIDs headlights from the factory then it is illegal to retrofit them on the car afterward. In other words, all after market HID kits are illegal (Even if Ford made the same headlights available as an option).
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Stock HID bulbs no matter what make of car are all 4300K, the only reason they look like a higher K in say BMW or Porsche is because of the optics from the projector.

The bulbs should last 2000-3000 hours versus maybe 500 hours for a halogen bulb.

As Tbones00SE said, if the car didn't come factory equipped with HID's it is illegal to install them for road use.
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That is some great info on the bulbs. At least it’s not going to cost as much to replace as I thought. Is it the optics then that also makes the light whiter, bluer, or more purple? And how does the factory get to install HID’s and the after market world can’t?
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I dunno about the optics part. Mercedes and BMWs probably use different brands of bulbs or something...plus they have bi-xenon's which incorporate the Hibeam into the HID. It is weird...most cars with Xenon headlights have a very scattered artifact filled high beam...but our high beams make the same pattern as a bixenon! I don't understand.

From what I DO understand, the higher the temperature on the kelvin scale, the different the color of the light will be. Have you ever seen insanely bright BLUE HIDs? THey do not actually shine as bright as say a 4500K HID, but they look bright blue. I think they are usually between 6000 and 8000K. You have the choice of buying HID bulbs that are of different shades of white.
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I hear that 3600 is perfect white.
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Yep, if you were sitting inside the car all you see is a white light. If you pull up to a garage or wall you'll notice a sharp cutoff of light, that is where the blue, purple and whatever color you see happens.

The factory gets too because they have to follow DOT rules governing the way the light comes out. That is why they have the very sharp cutoff of light.

The high beam on bi-xenon is done by moving shields that are blocking the light. Again the optics decide how the light looks coming out of the bulb.

Most bi-xenon aftermarket kits use a different approach to get high beams. I've seen that they will make the actual bulb move which both horizontally back and forth, and vertically up and down. That is a really bad idea as it probably has a much greater chance for breaking and the aim will probably always be off. I've also seen where they just send more power to the bulb which doesn't move the beam at all but just makes it slightly brighter than low. Finally I have seen at least one company that makes a movable shield as it does on actual bi-xenon cars.

Turbovation is correct on the kelvin scale. Daylight is not a set color but a range of color depending on whether it's overcast skies, clear, sunrise and so on. But for all intending purposes 4300K in HID is about the whitest you'll find. They may have a slight yellow tint at first, but once they pass a certain amount of time they get whiter. 5000K would be as high as I'd go for an aftermarket kit if you want actual brightness and not just a look.

4300K is what all factory style cars come with, everything else has to do with optics.
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