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Old 04-05-2014, 01:33 AM   #1
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Towing capacity question

I have a 2000 zx3 with a zetec and manual trans. I was wondering If the car could handle towing my 67 Mini Cooper. I know the manual says only 1000lbs, but my mini only weighs 1285, and I have heard that the US focus has a lower stated number due to regulations. It really is seriously tiny.... Seriously... Lol





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Old 04-05-2014, 03:41 AM   #2
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It would be far cheaper to rent a flatbed or trailer to haul this than to pay for possible damage done to the drivetrain of the Focus.
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Would this be float towing or towed on a trailer of some kind? Towed on its own I think it would be ok. I have towed a trailer weighing 1200lbs with a Pontiac Sunfire for a distance on 7000km (4350mi) as a total from 2 trips in which I was going 110km/h all day. That car is still rolling with the original clutch and overall drive train with 350,000km (217,500mi) on the odometer.

Realize that the 1000lbs towing capacity is only for the lawsuit crazy USA. In Europe people wouldn't give a second thought to tow that much and more with your exact car model. Check out THIS CHART listing several Foci from the UK to see an idea what they consider an acceptable tow weight.

Check out this bit about Europe vs the American towing conspiracy from thetruthaboutcars.com. Apparently a Toyota Yaris in the UK is good to haul 2300 lbs.

In other words you can tow your mini just fine, looking at the charts even if there was the weight of a trailer included. Drive carefully and gently and show North America that you don't need a full size pickup to tow what amounts to an equivalent load of 5 fat guys.

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Flat Tow should be OK.

On a Trailer you'd be getting into the range where you'd need a trailer with brakes, controller in the car etc.. CA wants brakes at 1,500lb. and you'd easily be above that.
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Seeing the original mini next to the modern one, I never realized how huge they have become. It seems that the new one misses the point somehow.
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:57 PM   #6
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Would this be float towing or towed on a trailer of some kind? Towed on its own I think it would be ok. I have towed a trailer weighing 1200lbs with a Pontiac Sunfire for a distance on 7000km (4350mi) as a total from 2 trips in which I was going 110km/h all day. That car is still rolling with the original clutch and overall drive train with 350,000km (217,500mi) on the odometer.



Realize that the 1000lbs towing capacity is only for the lawsuit crazy USA. In Europe people wouldn't give a second thought to tow that much and more with your exact car model. Check out THIS CHART listing several Foci from the UK to see an idea what they consider an acceptable tow weight.



Check out this bit about Europe vs the American towing conspiracy from thetruthaboutcars.com. Apparently a Toyota Yaris in the UK is good to haul 2300 lbs.



In other words you can tow your mini just fine, looking at the charts even if there was the weight of a trailer included. Drive carefully and gently and show North America that you don't need a full size pickup to tow what amounts to an equivalent load of 5 fat guys.



I consider myself a spreader of truth, I'll now step off my soap box.

This was very refreshing to hear. I asked the same question a couple years back on the neon forums, and they thought I was nuts to consider that! Never mind the fact that my 98 neon ACR had over 180hp and close to that in torque, all around big brakes, and koni's to boot. That car probably woulda towed the mini even easier. I miss that car =(
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Seeing the original mini next to the modern one, I never realized how huge they have become. It seems that the new one misses the point somehow.

It is definitely bigger, BUT I have to give it to them though. The new mini (the hardtop at least) looks great, drives great, and is still considerably small. They can't really make cars that small anymore. My doors are not even 2" thick, try that in a modern car...
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I used to tow with my 01 Civic coupe
The weight will be hard to stop but as long as your careful you should be OK IMO
Easy on the starts and hill starts , you clutch will thank you for it
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Anyone have any experience flat towing/tow bar pulling? Is it more or less stable than towing with a dolly?
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when you flat tow you must leave the steering column unlocked so the steer wheels follow you
never towed with a dolly but suspect its better for both the car being towed as well as handling since that's the way most RVs tow

How far are you actually going ?
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