I picked these up from Energy Suspension instead of cfm. They have a lip around both inserts so you dont have to glue them in like the how to says, but the inserts were not only a pain to get in, but it took a lot of finagling to get the mount back in also. Since they have a lip its wider and didnt want to fit, but I think it will make it a lot stiffer. I'll update after i go for a drive. Here are some pics:
I did that recently too. How did you get the old bushings out? I had to use a crazy huge press at work. I had to fab pieces of metal to make the press push where I needed it to.
Oh and the whole car vibrates at idle. Once I am over 1000 rpms its fine. I talked to my buddy Robbie aka Sn4ckM4st3r (if you remember him) and he said they just need a little break in time.
lol You've removed what the dogbone was supposed to do in the first place. The motor mounts are designed from the factory to reduce the vibration carried onto the vehicle as well as hold up the motor. When you went from the rubber bushing to the polyurethane bushing you removed that quality aspect from the dogbone by stiffening up the engine mount so you will feel motor vibrations in the steering wheel. If you had done all three motor mounts you will definately be feeling it a lot more.
lol You've removed what the dogbone was supposed to do in the first place. When you went from the rubber bushing to the polyurethane bushing you removed that quality aspect from the dogbone by stiffening up the engine mount so you will feel motor vibrations in the steering wheel.
So are you saying that going with poly mount inserts that there is a reduction in vibration control? Being as this thread is from '09- there are several newer threads here with ppl swearing poly is the way to go. Was there a change or what?
I am asking cause I have a OEM dogbone that I have out and are planning to get inserts for it.
I know this thread is old but I just did the energy inserts this weekend along with drivers and passenger mounts. What a pain getting the dog bone done without a vise. Cut the old ones out and got the inserts in with a rubber mallet and some swearing.
Anyway drives awesome but I sure hope the vibrations do settle down. It's not bad at idle but when starting the car or engaging the clutch to pull away from a stop its like the dash and rear lift gate are going to rattle off. I do a lot of stop and go commuting so a bit frustrating as is. The difference in engine movement is incredible though.
Lol I had only seen good statements about it before I did it.
It is the way to go provided you are willing to put up with vibrations in trade for performance. My a/c doesn't work so it doesn't matter but people say the vibrations are substantial with a/c on.
I will report back in a week with an update after it settles in.
If I didn't spend so much time in stop and go traffic I wouldn't mind at all.
If you haven't bought inserts yet maybe there is info on which brand is softest for less vibes..
And if you search this forum, you'll find post after post about people installing poly mounts then being unhappy with the vibrations and/or having them fail within a year, and switching back to OEMs.
So my take is if you want performance above all else, go poly; if you want comfort, go OEM.
So it seems to have broken in and the vibes are more tolerable. No longer seems like parts are going to rattle off lol. Still a bit annoying in heavy traffic but not as bad as it was at first.
I put Prothane in mine and loved the way it felt under acceleration, but at idle, holy crap. They came out 2 months later. They never did settle down. That is in a 2.3 if it matters.
in all honesty i would never go with the poly inserts 1) oe dogbone was never meant for them the increased stress of poly mounts (do to the increase in thickness) can cause them to wear out prematurely. 2) if u don't grease the poly inserts when installing (nobody ever does) the mount cant move like they're designed to (yes there are supposed to move just not much) and will fail.
fswerks has the vf replacement mounts all poly that are the best option in m opinion for decreased movement but yes they will rattle you to death. if you cant handle this just go oem.
For the record, I had those in for a little over 3 years and loved them. Yes they do need time to break in and it won't ever be as smooth as stock again, but its not that bad.
I installed all three poly mounts at the same time, VF engine/transaxle mount and CFM dogbone with street bushing. When I was about to turn the car on for the first time, judging by people's descriptions of the vibrations, I was preparing myself for a 9.8 earthquake; what I got was a massage chair. I dunno what the deal is but IMO people severely over exaggerate the vibrations, even at idle. I can't tell if the mounts "broke in" and softened up, or if I just got used to the vibration, which wasn't even bad at all to begin with, but now I don't even notice or care about it, even when my engine drops <1K at idle.
This mod is designed for race cars, if you're not the "race car" kind of person then replacing engine mounts with poly ones isn't really something you should be doing. Personally, I love it, because RALLY CAR! [burnout]
All that being said, almost my entire interior rattles now because it's a piece of crap, my A/C doesn't work and therefore I never use it, and I have a manual transmission. I'll be removing the entire A/C system as well as finishing my interior strip job whenever I get around to it. If you have an automatic, run the A/C all the time, and value luxuries, then this mod is definitely not for you.
I had the inserts in mine, when I first installed it it was obvious the other mounts were completely shot. replaced those with aftermarket replacements, the vibrations were bearable for me, however it caused my serp belt tensioner to fail and with the a/c on it was pretty horrible.
I really liked the performance gain, it is nice but the vibrations eventually got to me after a few months.
Recently did inserts and for the first 3 days it was rough. Now they have broken in and Its tolerable. Only thing that vibrates alot is my license plate at times while getting into first but its only for a moment now that its broken in.
Also had to get used to driving the car. All the other mounts seem to be fine because it barely made my car vibrate much more. To be honest my Factory sub makes my car vibrate more then this inserts. IF your car is vibrating alot change the passenger mount.
It was completely worth it because 1 to 2 shift would clunk very very loud, Now i get the shifts and power done. Also doesn't bother me because I drove a 2.3 for few years with all shot engine mounts, nuff said.
i know this is an old thread but what side did everyone install the torque mount ? from the first picture in the post the side facing up should be facing down right ? thats what it looks like in the second picture.
Need to know cause If so my garage installed it on the wrong side and it slipped out.[facepalm]
No it was on the car for about a week, i had to fix a gasket on my exhaust so when i went to fix that i saw that the bushing was pushed out a bit, i figured the garage must have installed it on the wrong way. Was wondering why it was shifting bad again.
So all 3 of my engine mounts on my svt are shot I'm looking to order new ones this week..I'm really looking for something in between the soft jerky stock mounts and the rattling polys does any one know of a good happy medium?
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