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Old 08-07-2013, 12:34 AM   #1
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SVT Timing belt

Hello! New here to the forums and just recently joined (finally). I'm sort of confused. I called my local ford dealer on a timing belt service. Called them twice and got back to me the day after, quoted me for 880$, tensonier, timing belt, serpentine(idk why), idler pully. Then they said something about the water pump.
Okay, I called another dealer and they got back to me within 10mins, quoted me 670$, told me on the svt the water pump wasn't where the timing belt is, so didn't have to change it(this is were i'm confused). Anyways quoted me on gasket, idler, tensioner, timingbelt. for that price.

So can anyone here clarify if my water pump is on serpentine or timing belt? If I should do it or not, thanks in advance.


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Old 08-07-2013, 01:36 AM   #2
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You don't have to replace the water pump but it's a good practice to do it since it's easily accessible when doing the timing belt. Have you called around to other shops in the area's for quotes? The dealer will almost always have the highest price.
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Yes I actually called my usually private mechanics shop and he said around 700$. Also he said they would have to call the dealer to clarify a few things. But that included the water pump. The dealer that quoted me 670 didn't. But the person I spoke with at the dealer said he done one before, so i feel more comfortable with the dealer haha.
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Water pump not on the timing belt run but silly to get right there and not do it. 4 bolts and done.

Get that belt changed. Unlike the lower models that engine will bend every valve in it if belt goes.
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Alright, thanks for your input!
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Honestly, there are so many people in the California regions that have changed their t-belts themselves, you are better off seeing if you can get one of them to help you do it yourself. You could save a good bit of money of you did the service by yourself or with some help from those who have done it before. The t-belt replacement can cost a bunch of money if you take it to an inexperienced shop (a shop not familiar with focus' or zetec motor timing), but if you find a honest shop who has some experience working with focus' and zetec's you should be able to get a decent price.
Another thing you can do to lower the price from a shop is to supply your own parts. While this removes the shop from warranting their work or parts if a failure were to occur, it also removes the shop mark up on the components needed. I always like to supply my own parts if I need to have a shop do the work. 9/10 the independent shops get their replacement parts from places like AutoZone, Napa, or O'Reilly's; most of those places don't know the difference between standard and SVT specific parts. Most shops will only get an OEM part if the parts stores don't have what they need to get the job done. With me supplying the parts, I know I have the parts my car needs; with out some clueless guy looking at a computer monitor and telling you that the part they have for engine code 5 is what they sold you.

As for what should be done when you do the timing belt service, it depends mostly on how much mileage certain components have on them. If you are doing the t-belt between 75 and 100k miles and nothing has ever been replaced before it would be a good idea to do the timing belt, t-belt idler, t-belt tensioner, serpentine belt, serp idler, serp tensioner, valve cover gasket, and water pump. It would also be a good time to check the condition of your spark plugs and plug wires, possibly even your t-stat housing to see if it has developed any leaks.
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Thanks for the input. I'm considering taking it to the dealer. The actual person I spoke to actually has experience with SVT Focus. Also they are around the same price as the private mechanic I go to(he's an honest guy) quoted me on OEM. But the problem is they never worked on an SVT before so I don't want to chance it haha. If I had the time and the tools/facilities I'd do it myself. Car only has 71k miles last owner didn't look like he drove it hard. (2nd owner here).

Also will I notice any performance gain from doing all of this work?
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