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Old 08-23-2014, 07:23 PM   #21
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Nevermind I managed to get it
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:24 PM   #22
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By the way getting that hose off of the tube is a pain in the butt
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:41 PM   #23
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I have been having the rough idle and stalling when I put the car into gear. Upon further looking I found the above hose I question collapsing at the elbow where it turns and goes into the intake. I figured the Pcv was plugged so I pulled it and cleaned it then to make sure no blockage was in the line I blew compressed air through the line from back to front. No problems found there, blew clean through. Next reattached the hose at the intake and left off the Pcv valve and started the engine. Good vacuum at the end where the Pcv valve goes. Hooked back up Pcv valve and tube again collapsed and rough idle starts. So I cleaned the little foam filter in the air box, seemed to help just a bit with it removed. But the fact remained that the rubber elbow collapsed while the engine was running.
New "upgrade" from local ford dealer in hand that seems a little stiffer and is wrapped in heat shield. I am guessing the original suffered from being baked by the exhaust.
Will check back with results tonight after I get the new hose installed.
As a side note I figured it could be a couple things as the car has sat for an extended period of time. So I drained the fuel tank, changed the fuel filter, refilled fuel tank with fresh gas and added fuel system cleaner, changed all the other filters and fluids and had no improvement in how it ran.
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:44 PM   #24
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I have been having the rough idle and stalling when I put the car into gear. Upon further looking I found the above hose I question collapsing at the elbow where it turns and goes into the intake. I figured the Pcv was plugged so I pulled it and cleaned it then to make sure no blockage was in the line I blew compressed air through the line from back to front. No problems found there, blew clean through. Next reattached the hose at the intake and left off the Pcv valve and started the engine. Good vacuum at the end where the Pcv valve goes. Hooked back up Pcv valve and tube again collapsed and rough idle starts. So I cleaned the little foam filter in the air box, seemed to help just a bit with it removed. But the fact remained that the rubber elbow collapsed while the engine was running.
New "upgrade" from local ford dealer in hand that seems a little stiffer and is wrapped in heat shield. I am guessing the original suffered from being baked by the exhaust.
Will check back with results tonight after I get the new hose installed.
As a side note I figured it could be a couple things as the car has sat for an extended period of time. So I drained the fuel tank, changed the fuel filter, refilled fuel tank with fresh gas and added fuel system cleaner, changed all the other filters and fluids and had no improvement in how it ran.
Mine cleared up after changing the hose as well...I had the collapsed hose as well. If it collapses again I am going to put a spring in the hose on that turn to the intake. I will be doing the lower hose on the rad next.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:53 PM   #25
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Ok so hose changed and a marked improvement but still not completely smooth idle. Took it out for a test spin and sitting with foot on brake and car in gear it idles "ok" but start adding load like AC and heater fan a headlights and it stumbles and stalls. So I turned all that off and restart it and it idles ok again. Back down the road I go and I start getting MIL flashing at me. I get home and check the codes and it is P0301 and P0304. Misfire detected on cylinder one and four. It cleared after about one minute of driving but was still rough idling but steady between 750-1000 Rpms in park.
Plugs are new also, going to pull them and see what they look like. Any other ideas?
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:55 PM   #26
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That could be electrical. Check the battery voltage with the car off and with it at idle. It should be well above 15volts. Ford has never been found at grounding either. Going through grounds on an escort was almost a must when you got it. Also check wires too. My idle stumbles when the rad fan.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:03 PM   #27
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Pulled the new Bosch plugs, number one and four are wet. Two and three are nice and dry, same looking down the cylinders. Maybe I will put the old plugs back in and try that or go buy a new set of wires. Battery is good and charged, I will check the voltage. It did not throw the code until about 50mph or so and you could feel the missing. Guessing maybe wires at this point?
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:13 PM   #28
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Could be...or else fuel related. I'd try swapping the plugs around. Perhaps you'll throw a misfire in the cylinders you swap them too. A simple test that way. New wires aren't a bad idea anyway.
I had an alt that maintained perfect voltage at idle but when you increased the rpms on the motor/alt it dropped to almost nothing.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:48 PM   #29
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Fixed my hose tonight... However the valve cover gasket started leaking when checked the bolts were quite loose... Snugged them up will check the oil and see how it looks and keep an eye on it
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:26 PM   #30
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Fixed my hose tonight... However the valve cover gasket started leaking when checked the bolts were quite loose... Snugged them up will check the oil and see how it looks and keep an eye on it
Being it just started when I replace my hole is it's probably just coolant I spilled and is burning off by exhaust manifold. Valve cover gasket was recently replaced not saying it can't go bad but the timing is ironic
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