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Old 11-22-2013, 06:55 PM   #31
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Truth be told the mrz is more powerful, has a better aftermarket than the current ecoboost. Bolt-one as simple as a mazdaspeed cai adds 20hp.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:11 PM   #32
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I saw 3 mkc's today with manufacturer plates on them. I couldn't get a pic as that might of ended very bad while driving in a turn. But they looked good and with the popularity the escape has had I think they will be popular as well.

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Old 11-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #33
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Personally, not thrilled by the new Lincoln look - maybe it'll grow on me...

Gonna see a lot more small engines as the mfrs. chase fuel economy while trying to keep the customers happy with the power levels they've gotten used to.

Wonder what we'd be seeing these days if tax & licensing rules around the World hadn't penalized displacement. Large displacement engines running low RPM are pretty efficient - look at Big Rig diesels for a current example. If just SOME of the engineering that went into getting more power from less displacement had gone into efficiency from large engines - the trend in the early years of the automobile...

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Old 11-23-2013, 05:45 PM   #34
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A luxury car with a 4 cylinder? No thanks.
It's kinda like Cadillac putting a V6 in one of their models and then wanting $50,000 for it.
Lincoln should stick with 6's and small 8's.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:02 PM   #35
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with the power their getting out of a 4 cylinder yes - MKZ please !
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:58 PM   #36
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It's not like Ford is pioneering use of something that would reduce drag on the engine like a solenoid operated valves or spherical rotating valves.
Last time I checked, two less sets of pistons/rings/bearings took a bit less horsepower to turn. Equal power, less parasitic engine drag, and actually a better torque curve for most Ecoboost engines when comparing similar HP level engines vs their NA counterparts.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:41 AM   #37
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Along those lines which many may not of heard of yet, Ford has an ecoboost 3 cylinder engine, available in a fiesta, that puts out the power of a 4 cylinder. They are using technology in that engine that will be used in future engines, per Ford motor co.

A quote from Carroll Shelby
“I think you’re going to see the industry going completely to small engines with turbochargers. That’s the only way you can get the mileage that the government is going to be demanding.”

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Old 11-25-2013, 09:31 AM   #38
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Personally, not thrilled by the new Lincoln look - maybe it'll grow on me....
the outside styling doesnt exactly thrill me either...they usually win me over with their interiors though.

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A luxury car with a 4 cylinder? No thanks.
It's kinda like Cadillac putting a V6 in one of their models and then wanting $50,000 for it.
Lincoln should stick with 6's and small 8's.
lol, you mean cadilac putting a 4cylinder in one of their models and charging $50k because they are doing that too The base engine in the ATS is a 2.5l and they have an optional turbo 2.0l, you can option both out and get close to that $50k.


I'd drive the new CLA45 AMG, its a four banger that is putting out 355hp out of its 2.0L. I dont have a problem with 4cylinders though, they can still be usefull and have enough power for me in a luxury car
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The thing about Cadillac is that the cars ARE technically tarted up Chevrolets.... They all share platforms.

The key difference is that the Cadillacs come first and THEN they are watered down and given a bowtie; not the other way around like Ford is doing with Lincoln.

Another thing to realize is that Cadillac has almost NO place in straight up luxury anymore. They cannot afford to compete with the German and Japanese brands so they focused on performance with luxury design. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9faBE_ceJY (Check out the orange peel in the Cadillac's paint!! Its embarrassingly low-quality compared to the Lexus.)

Lincoln is standing above Cadillac as far as "luxury" is concerned but if Ford doesn't prioritize correctly, it will never succeed in the long-term.


Also, I'm calling it right now that the 2.3 won't receive more power for the Mustang. 275hp/300tq is way above the capabilities of the current V6 already and any more power would sacrifice any efficiency gains they might be advertising over the V6. I'm guessing with the new Mustang's light-weight and upcoming 10-speed transmissions, the ecoboost mileage will be astronomical.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:17 AM   #40
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its still basically a 2.3 duratec you find in the focus everything down to the dipstick has FOMOCO stamp on it.
The block is basically Ford, the head, VVT and turbo system were all built by Mazda, hence Ford hasn't had a 2.3 turbo for 10 years at all.
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