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Old 11-12-2013, 10:00 PM   #81
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You do realize that the quality of the pictures that were posted are not the greatest. So you're making assumptions on pictures that are sub-par. Wait until OP gets clear pictures, then state your opinion.

Not to mention, you're coming from a MK3 that had a ST swap. Not to mention, own a ST. Of course you're going to nit pick.

Quit raining on the mans parade.
I'm not raining on anyone's parade.

It's quite clear that even if the pictures were not the greatest that there is sufficient evidence to point out the issues with the parts in question. The area around the cover is one such issue, but that's the nature of mixing a used and possibly damaged o.e. piece and a pattern or replica part.

If no one tried the parts other than the ebay ad then it would not be a known quantity, but in their picture it looks like there were fewer fit issues that might be associated with the shop rather than the parts, although there is still the issue of the disappearing gap.


I received much harsher criticism for even thinking of doing the swap let alone after I did it, but that's not why I critiqued his car. There are a few glaring issues with the fit that anyone who knows the car would notice, but might not be obvious to the lay person. And given how much better the parts seem to fit in the supplier's photograph there appears to be some problem with how it was aligned. I'm sure some of this could be better judged and adjusted in person, but like I said before if he likes it then that's all that matters.

It is not a coincidence that I would be interested in seeing how this turned out having followed the first conversion out of necessity (a front end collision in that case that wiped out the entire front end) v.s. mine out of minor necessity, due to damaging the cover a second time right after getting the car back from the shop finally.

Constructive criticism is beneficial and positive. If everyone always agreed with me then I'd be worried that they weren't being honest and that both of us would be wrong. I have not said the o.p. should not have done this conversion ever, and although I'm not as fond of pattern or replica parts in some cases they do have their place. I just wish for his sake that he will be reunited with the car sooner rather than later so he can judge the work he ordered from afar.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:01 AM   #82
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It could be that the front bumper and insulator are also different then the N/A they have more of a curve shape and could be a little bit lower.
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Do you guys really want that gap so much? i personally think the replica looks better not having it. less gap makes for a much smoother look and isn't that what buying the part is all about? aesthetics.
i'm not trying to make my S model look like an ST. i just prefer the style of it's bumper. again, just my opinion, there was a lot of emphasis on something i don't understand.
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Do you guys really want that gap so much? i personally think the replica looks better not having it. less gap makes for a much smoother look and isn't that what buying the part is all about? aesthetics.
i'm not trying to make my S model look like an ST. i just prefer the style of it's bumper. again, just my opinion, there was a lot of emphasis on something i don't understand.
The gap is intentional as a part of the tolerance stacks as well as for allowing airflow through the engine bay. Closing the gap looks worse, and it's likely to to cause the bumper cover to rub on the corners of the hood.

You have the exact same gap on the base MK3 fascia as on the ST but you don't notice it as much on the basis of the center grille.

Also reducing the gap makes the car look like the Fiesta ST, or the new Focus ST, which looks awkward imo.

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It could be that the front bumper and insulator are also different then the N/A they have more of a curve shape and could be a little bit lower.
No, the hood, headlamps, and fenders are all identical across the model range, and from the S-ST3 all have the same exact gap between the hood and the bumper cover with o.e.m. parts.
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:02 AM   #85
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I like cleaner the lines. Looks less like fitment issues.
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there's a massive grille on the ST bumper to let in plenty of air and the bumper could not possibly rub the hood since it doesn't end at the gap, it's connected to a black plastic piece that goes under the hood.

http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachm...039.859670.jpg

it's entirely aesthetic.
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