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Old 10-21-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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Having some issues, need help!

Hey guys...new to this site and just wanna say thanks in advance for any help. I recently was driving my car around the neighborhood and had the clutch pedal go straight to the floor and it will no longer disengage the clutch. Picked up a new slave cylinder and master cylinder just to swap them both out, but then realized that the tranny has to be dropped to pop in the new slave cylinder. I was wondering which of these pieces is responsible for the problem, as I am needing to get rolling again asap and as easily as possible as snow is starting to fall...I don't have the resources I used to, so NOT dropping the tranny is highly preferred at this point. Thanks again.

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Old 10-21-2013, 03:29 PM   #2
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:48 PM   #4
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So..is the pedal laying down on the floor? If so it is more likely to be in the pedal assembly. The bracket broke? or the hydraulic piston part broke off at the pedal bracket.
So you first need to get a look under the dash at the bracket holding the clutch pedal.
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It could be as simple as the bleeder screw is not tight.
We aren't going to be able to troubleshoot it for you without more info, and you doing some process of elimination.

Start with checking for brake fluid leaks at the clutch master.
Try refilling it and bleeding the system.
The fluid went somewhere, figure out where it escaped.
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Um, elsolo, the OP never mentioned fluid. Perhaps you answered the wrong post?

Twice I've had that happen and both times it was the slave. Sorry dude, but I think you're in for a tranny drop.

But thanks for keeping the snow over your way. We still don't have any here yet.
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Um, elsolo, the OP never mentioned fluid. Perhaps you answered the wrong post?

Twice I've had that happen and both times it was the slave. Sorry dude, but I think you're in for a tranny drop.

But thanks for keeping the snow over your way. We still don't have any here yet.
In a hydraulic system, if there is no pressure, pretty good indicator it is no longer a sealed system full of only hydraulic fluid.

Sure, the pedal linkage could be mechanically broken, but how common is that compared to the loss of hydraulic fluid.

The pressure plate could also be the problem, and the TO is working fine it just has nothing pushing back against it.

Troubleshooting is the process of elimination, and you usually start with the high probability items that are easier to check. He could drop the trans to look at the pressure plate and TO, but if it turned out he simply had a fluid leak that would be a whole lot of avoidable labor.
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Gotcha. I guess I assumed he would have checked fluid first, but I should know better.

So yes, check the fluid first. Very easy since the clutch uses the brake reservoir. I would have expected you would have noticed braking issues as well if the fluid was low, but check and know for sure.

If the master isn't leaking and the little plastic plunger under the pedal is operating smoothly, it's likely okay.

My bet is still on the slave.
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The pedal is still hanging in it's appropriate starting point, but when pushed down, there is no change in pedal resistance, nor does it disengage the clutch. I had thought I had a small rear main seal leak, but now I am guessing that it was fluid leaking out of the slave cylinder that was the cause of the leak. Like I originally posted, given my current circumstances, I am unable to pull the motor or drop the tranny. I am just wanting to have a certain solution figured out when I take it in to have it done. It is also my understanding that this is a self bleeding clutch? Please correct me if I am wrong, as a temporary fix to make it drive-able to a shop would be much preferred! Thanks.
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The first question to answer is...is there fluid in the master cylinder. If no then filling it may be enough to get you to the shop. If the master is still full then I would check the connection between the peddle and the actuator...way up under the dash...need to do a head stand under the steering wheel to see it. if that's connected and there is fluid in the master then the issue is the slave.

I agree with elsolo...diagnosing issues is a process of elimination...start with the easy to check things and work towards the more difficult.
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