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Old 10-12-2013, 09:44 PM   #1
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Need some help with '03...

I have an '03 four door with the 2.0 split port and have been having a problem with a miss, or "flutter", in 5th gear at highway speeds. It does it worse in the morning when it is cold and it is the first start up of the day. At the first start up of the day it will often miss, or "flutter", through all of the gears getting up to speed. After the engine is shut off and then re-started several hours later it is noticeably better with less of a miss or "flutter".

The check engine light, CEL, came on and I had a buddy check it with his scanner. It threw a code indicating "insufficient exhaust gas recirculation" or something along those lines. After doing some research I found that it is fairly common for the DPFE sensor to go bad. I went to the parts store and picked up a new DPFE sensor and there was no improvement. So, I went back to the parts store and picked up a new EGR valve and EGR tube. I disconnected the battery while replacing the EGR valve and tube which took a couple of hours. I checked all of the vac lines and they all appeared to be in good condition.

After reconnecting the batter and allowing the engine to idle for about three minutes I took it out for a drive. The miss or "flutter" is still there - absolutely NO improvement. I am heading over to my buddy's place later this evening and will have him scan it again to see if there are any more codes...

Does anyone have ANY idea or suggestions? It is really frustrating!!!


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Old 10-15-2013, 01:03 PM   #2
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I replaced the coil with a new one and the problem still persists maybe even worse. When the engine was cold upon first starting it after the new coil it ran great. As soon as it was up to operating temp the stumble returned...

Does anyone have ANY suggestions on what to try next?
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:14 AM   #3
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I've been having a warm stumble miss issue myself. I'm getting different codes, but it has been my experience with other type vehicles that a lot of ghost problems are in wiring ...like a bad ground not allowing proper signal to sensors, ECU, spark signal etc.
it is a PITA to go searching since I'm not the best mechanic and have no routine for checking to isolate problems.
Only thing I can say is watch it closely and try to start ruling out systems and if weather permits in your area get a multimeter and start checking grounds to the valve EGR etc.
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Thanks sharpshooter... I did get the problem resolved. I waited until after dark, started the Focus in the driveway and raised the hood. I could see arcing all of the place near the cylinder head. I replaced the plug wires and it runs like a top!!! It has not missed a beat since the new plug wires.
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