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Old 09-11-2013, 11:15 PM   #1
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Focus in South-East Asia

While browsing the forum, I have noticed almost all threads are about the north-american market.
Even though the car is the same worldwide, trim levels, colors and some details vary from market to market. I find it interesting to see american models, so I guess some of you may be interested in seeing our models.


Before starting, I would like to emphasis the biggest issue here (besides prices): Choices are extremely limited.
We pick a trim level and a color, that's it. Trim levels include the engine, transmission,... and everything else. We cannot pick any option. E.g. The only way to get a manual transmission is by buying an entry-level 1.6L sedan.

The list of trim levels (detailed below) is as follow:
  • 4Dr 1.6L Ti-VCT Ambiente MT
  • 4Dr 1.6L Ti-VCT Ambiente 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 4Dr 1.6L Ti-VCT Trend 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 4Dr 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi Titanium 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 4Dr 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi Titanium+ 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 5Dr 1.6L Ti-VCT Ambiente 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 5Dr 1.6L Ti-VCT Trend 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 5Dr 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi Sport 6-Speed PowerShift AT
  • 5Dr 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi Sport+ 6-Speed PowerShift AT





Engines and transmission
In Thailand (and I believe in south-east asia as well as Australia), the focus is offered with two engine choices:
  • 1.6L Ti-VCT
    The entry level is a 1.6L 4 cyl engine developing 125 hp. It's available with a 5 speed manual transmission for the entry-level sedan or the 6 speed powershift on all other models and trim levels.

    Specifications:
    Engine Model: 1.6L Ti-VCT
    Engine Type: 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V Ti-VCT
    Displacement (cc.):1596
    Bore x Stroke (mm.): 79.0 x 81.4
    Compression Ratio: 11: 1
    Maximum Power (PS (kw) / rpm): 125 (92) / 6000
    Maximum Torque (Nm / rpm) : 159 / 4000
    Fuel Supply System: Electronic Multipoint Injection
    Fuel Tank Capacity (L.):55

  • 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi
    Our only other option is the 2.0l engine developing 170 hp. I believe the engine is the same as on other markets. We do get 10 more horsepower, likely because emission laws are less restrictive here. It is only available with the powershift DCT.

    Specifications:
    Engine Model: Duratec 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi
    Engine Type: Inline 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V Ti-VCT and GDi
    Displacement (cc.): 1999
    Bore x Stroke (mm.): 87.5 x 83.1
    Compression Ratio: 12 : 1
    Maximum Power (PS (kw) / rpm): 170 (152) / 6600
    Maximum Torque (Nm / rpm) : 202 / 4450
    Fuel Supply System: Gasoline Direct Injection


Trim levels

Hatchback
The hatchback comes in 4 trim levels which I am summarizing here:
  • 1.6L Powershift Ambiente ($25,300)
    • 1.6 liter engine
    • 6 speed Powershift DCT transmission
    • 16" steel rims
    • Radio / CD / MP3
    • 4 Speakers
    • 3.5" Dot Matrix Multi-Function Display
    • Halogen Headlamps
    • Manual A/C
    • Black fabric seats
    • Rear Seat Fold 60:40
    • 2 airbags
    • Electric front windows
  • 1.6L Trend ($26,000)
    • Ambiente with the following changes:
    • 16" alloy rims
    • Bluetooth
    • 6 speakers
    • Audio control on the steering wheel
    • Front fog lamps
    • Trip computer with eco mode
    • Map light

  • 2.0L Sport ($30,000)
    • Trend with the following changes:
    • 2.0L engine
    • 17" alloy wheels
    • Sport tuned suspension
    • Sony premium audio
    • 9 speakers
    • 4.2" TFT screen
    • "Sporty type" halogen headlamps
    • ST rear spoiler
    • Chrome door waistline
    • Side skirts
    • Electric rear view mirrors
    • LED rear lamps
    • 4 Electric windows
    • Multi function steering wheel
    • Leather covered steering wheel and gear shift knob
    • Dual zone A/C
    • Keyless entry and Power start
    • Sporty partial leather seats
    • Driver's seat lumbar support
    • Rear center armrest
    • Illuminated vanity mirror
    • Ambient lighting
    • Side airbags
    • Anti-theft alarm
    • Parking sensors
  • 2.0L Sport+ ($33,800)
    • Sport with the following changes:
    • Bi-Xenon HID Head Lamps with Auto Leveling & Jet Wash / Static cornering light / LED parking light
    • Auto Headlamps with Follow me home light
    • Rain Sensitive Wipers
    • Power Tilt/Slide Sunroof
    • Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror
    • Cruise Control with Speed limiter
    • Side Curtain Airbags
    • Auto Park Assist
    • Active City Stop

Colors:
Frozen white:


Candy red:


Winning blue:


Panther black:


Mustard olive:


Midnight sky:


Lunar sky:


Ingot Silver:



[SEDAN COMING LATER]

Apparently, the most common remark on these cars is that we get some extra stuff compared to american cars: painted side skirts, ST rear spoiler, straight exhaust tip,... Some complain that "Americans always gets screwed".
I believe the american ST gets all that as well and is $5,000 cheaper than my Sport+... Who's getting screwed? ;-)




I hope you guys found this interesting!

Cheers!



Sources: http://www.ford.co.th, ford brochures and my own experience.


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Old 09-14-2013, 08:15 PM   #2
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Thanks for sharing this. Seems like we have better choices except for engines.
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:22 PM   #3
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:42 AM   #4
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Wow. Here in Taiwan, we have a model equivalent to your sports+ model (sans a few options, mainly park assist) selling for roughly USD 26,000. Still a lot more expensive than US (and Canada?) sticker price but cheaper than Thailand listed price. The extra dough is collected by the government in the form of excise tax as well as import duty.

How you like the park assist? This is not available here.

How do you like the DCT, are there complaints on this transmission in your market?

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Wow. We have your sports+ model (without a few item, mainly park assist) here in Taiwan selling for roughly USD 26,000. Still a lot more expensive than us sticker prices than Thailand listed prices. The extra dough is collected by the government in the form of excise tax as well as import tax.

How you like the park assist? This is not available here.

How do you like the DC, are there complaints on this transmission in your market?

I've used the park assist thing a couple of times. I find it convenient when space is limited and... when it works (about 50% of the time). But maybe I don't use it correctly?
Most of the time, it's quicker not to use it though.

I'm having the usual DCT grinding noise.
Gear changes don't match my driving style. It goes from grandma-driving style (2000 rpm upshifts) to suddenly dropping 2 gears under acceleration. I'd like something inbetween.
I end up driving it in manual mode most of the time.
Manual shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear is awfully slow though (several seconds slow) and I'll get that checked at the 15,000km maintenance (I'm now close to 11,000). Other gears have acceptable shifting time.



Are taiwanese cars built in Thailand as well? I see you have a 2013 TDCI, which is not available here.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:43 AM   #6
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Taiwan Lio Ho plant builds Focuses(?) beginning 2012.

TDCi is equipped with wet-clutch DCT, which is generally less noisy but I find the drivability of the transmission leaving a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, I also have a very hard time adapting to the "select shift"/manual mode (I have driven true stick shift cars all my life, which, I think, actually prevents me from getting used to the manual shifting mode of the DCT).
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Taiwan Lio Ho plant builds Focuses(?) beginning 2012.

TDCi is equipped with wet-clutch DCT, which is generally less noisy but I find the drivability of the transmission leaving a lot to be desired. Unfortunately, I also have a very hard time adapting to the "select shift"/manual mode (I have driven true stick shift cars all my life, which, I think, actually prevents me from getting used to the manual shifting mode of the DCT).
Interesting, I didn't know Taiwan had a factory! I'd be curious to try a wet clutch version.

I'm also used to manual gearboxes and wish it was available here. Sadly, the only manual cars you can get in Thailand are either low-end models or more expensive/imported ones (USD 40,000+).

Still, in this price range, I believe the focus is the most fun car which is why I picked it.
Other options: Honda civic, Mitsubishi lancer, Toyota corolla, Chevrolet cruze, Nissan sylphy, Hyundai elantra. I think that's it.
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Since the wife refuses to drive a stick shift in the terrible Taiwan traffic, I have to go with the auto transmission. We picked the focus partially because DCT really sounds good on paper - supposedly combining the best features in manual and auto boxes... oh, well.

Yes, focus is definitely one of (if not the most) fun cars in the price range. If only I can drive a 6 speed manual model available in Europe....
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:28 AM   #9
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Hello from Malaysia

Mine is a candy red 2.0L Sport. Yup, we get our Focus from Thailand.

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I had a MKII for five years. It was build in the Phillipines but I believe Ford closed that plant recently.

It is a 2.0L Duratec (no variable valve timing) with a 4-speed auto box.

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