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Old 01-29-2013, 06:17 AM   #91
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Hello all, just an update. I did buy and install the left one as well. Just to go over what I have, so you can draw your own conclusions. I have a 13 SE, with the 201A package ( I think) anyway, my car had turn signals in the mirrors and power mirrors. NO puddle light. I have regular remote key/fob NO I/A. I have power windows on all doors, but only one touch on drivers door.

I bought heated, power, turn signal mirrors from my local Ford dealer. They come WITHOUT the painted surface. If you tilt the mirror glass, you will find the release tabs on top. I think it is best to wait until you have the new mirror so you can see it without the painted cap as that view will show exactly where the tabs for release are. The painted cap from the original mirror just clips onto the new one.

Anyway, I simply removed the originals and installed the new ones, hit the rear defroster and they work. They actually heat up fairly quickly.

When I took the right mirror off originally to inspect, I noticed that Ford is using very tiny wiring pins in the plugs. This is what prevented me from simply swapping out the glass for heated glass.

I compared my original to the new heated mirror, and the only differnce I can see was the heated glass, and 2 wires that run from the back of the mirror glass to the plug in the base of the mirror assembly.
If anyone can find these "micro" pins, then it is absolutely possible to save some money and buy the glass as opposed to the whole assembly as I did.

My next project is to install heated seats using the factory parts. They sell everything seperately. The wiring is already in place, so I will sort this out soon. Then I will have the winter package I wanted but could not find.

I hope this writing helped someone.

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Were you ever able to get the puddle lights to work?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:18 PM   #92
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Hi All,
Unfortunately I don't have great news for those with IA or Auto-Up windows. There is no setting to change in the BCM to enable the heated mirrors or puddle lamps. The mechanic at the dealership tried every way he could to get them to initialize; but was not successful.
They theorize that flashing the BCM with calibration files from a car with the heated mirrors might work. We would need to find a car built at near the same time as mine and with the same options + the cold weather package. They didn't want to do this as flashing the BCM takes a long time. Also no one knew if flashing with another car's files could screw up my car or its conversations with Ford computers when it's in for other maintenance work.
To even try the flash I would need the help of a friendly mechanic and dealer in the CT area.
The BCM seems unfortunately the heart of the car. It is the central hub to all other modules and screwing it up would be very bad.

If there's anyone on the forums with greater knowledge as to how these things work your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-30-2013, 02:57 PM   #93
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Unfortunately I don't have great news for those with IA or Auto-Up windows. There is no setting to change in the BCM to enable the heated mirrors or puddle lamps. The mechanic at the dealership tried every way he could to get them to initialize; but was not successful.
They theorize that flashing the BCM with calibration files from a car with the heated mirrors might work. We would need to find a car built at near the same time as mine and with the same options + the cold weather package. They didn't want to do this as flashing the BCM takes a long time. Also no one knew if flashing with another car's files could screw up my car or its conversations with Ford computers when it's in for other maintenance work.
To even try the flash I would need the help of a friendly mechanic and dealer in the CT area.
The BCM seems unfortunately the heart of the car. It is the central hub to all other modules and screwing it up would be very bad.

If there's anyone on the forums with greater knowledge as to how these things work your help would be greatly appreciated.

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So you're saying that even though the mirrors are plug and play, they won't heat up due to the fact their not coded into the BCM? Fail :(
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I don't understand why the BCM is not just like a normal computer that can have individual software files uploaded to it. Instead it has to be completely programmed with a whole identity which cannot be changed.

I amn confused how some people are claiming their retrofit of the heated mirrors ARE working, while for others it isn't.
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Unfortunately I don't have great news for those with IA or Auto-Up windows. There is no setting to change in the BCM to enable the heated mirrors or puddle lamps. The mechanic at the dealership tried every way he could to get them to initialize; but was not successful.
They theorize that flashing the BCM with calibration files from a car with the heated mirrors might work. We would need to find a car built at near the same time as mine and with the same options + the cold weather package. They didn't want to do this as flashing the BCM takes a long time. Also no one knew if flashing with another car's files could screw up my car or its conversations with Ford computers when it's in for other maintenance work.
To even try the flash I would need the help of a friendly mechanic and dealer in the CT area.
The BCM seems unfortunately the heart of the car. It is the central hub to all other modules and screwing it up would be very bad.

If there's anyone on the forums with greater knowledge as to how these things work your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Well that really bites cause I have the mirrors installed and was waiting to hear back from you about your progress. Well I guess in no need to buy the door control modules if we can't even get the BCM to recognize them
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Has anyone with an ST got the heated mirrors to work? I haven't bought the car yet so I can't test for voltage. I'm looking at an ST1 but heated mirrors require about 5k worth of options that I don't want or need.
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Well, I've got my ST now so I tested for voltage; I got nuttin with the rear defroster on or off.

I do have 12v to one of the 2 extra wires when the dome lights are on; looks like I could have puddle lamps if I wanted.

Like one of the other posters, I do get 12v at the fuse with the rear defroster on.
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Well, I've got my ST now so I tested for voltage; I got nuttin with the rear defroster on or off.

I do have 12v to one of the 2 extra wires when the dome lights are on; looks like I could have puddle lamps if I wanted.

Like one of the other posters, I do get 12v at the fuse with the rear defroster on.
What exact wire and in what plug are you getting 12v with the dome lights on? I installed new mirrors months ago that have puddle lights and heat but can't get them to work. It was my understanding that if you have a Focus with door modules, you're SOL as far as getting heated mirrors and puddle lights to work.
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:12 PM   #99
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From the Ford service manual, there is only one diagram for the mirrors without door module:



WITH door module has 4 pages:









Not sure if that helps anyone.
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There are two available door modules for the MK3 Focus, one with heat/puddle lamps and one without heat/puddle. If you where to just replace your door modules with ones that have heat and puddle lamp capability, they still wouldn't work. It needed to be enabled when your car was manufactured. Cars that do not have door modules(intelligent access), will be PNP for heated mirrors.
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